From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Francis Moreau" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What I'm missing when using M-x shell Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:14:24 +0200 Message-ID: <38b2ab8a0809131214j5a956616l518b8a609e74f72a@mail.gmail.com> References: <38b2ab8a0809130943s58aed564seee22a18032c439a@mail.gmail.com> <87zlmc6jfx.fsf@tux.homenetwork> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221333299 29706 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2008 19:14:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Dan Espen To: "Thierry Volpiatto" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 13 21:15:54 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Keab4-00065d-1v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:15:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40450 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Keaa3-0003AF-6I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KeaZi-00037a-Pl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KeaZe-00034P-6V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:14:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38166 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KeaZe-00034J-0R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.169]:62087) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KeaZd-0001MP-Ul for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so418567uge.17 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ygs7kvbMIqf9R1IvCif6TunqsoGh69ltNl9wiFimn+s=; b=AVEmCMN+s7OpjL7PoMQtXXefnckeCCMJHvsd1rCulVkfnbfldc0ck3cHHSynNOr49X XsJylheog2Qi9DsUBSh39QM+gwKw9Rk90GRAZfaLBaB3tyZHEIexAV0un+Me4rSrbXZD zQDul2TttYm6tCdkLLBbtNBD+scdSJT2r3TGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=SWbxy6FYl4WWr77SRp7+Gba6o/e1nanFPn3MfFqgc9E0Csnbt5Oqp01u7h+sZ37ury 1LSWI8X0fJrdnAOI3JswuAxgwnEyX8ftxJqabl9avS+NHNcOaBJFyAfpvLD7Po8fkVbG m4cp7huEm2xZinS25TShYG7fKTmXthvUF4yQY= Original-Received: by 10.67.92.10 with SMTP id u10mr1091970ugl.6.1221333264861; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.67.22.17 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zlmc6jfx.fsf@tux.homenetwork> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57535 Archived-At: Hello, On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > Did you try using a window manager that work correctly with emacs+shell > like stumpwm or rat-poison. > I am using stumpwm and i am really happy with it. > I can switch to a shell at anytime just like in emacs. > No I haven't and I don't think I will have some spare time to try them. For now I'm using Screen with emacs and it works ok. > Have also a look at eev:(you may like that if you are a fan of shell) > > http://angg.twu.net/eev-article.html > > and try to eval from anywhere in emacs (C-x C-e) for example: > > (find-sh "ps -u $USER | grep emacs | awk '{print $1}'") > Interesting thanks. > Try also to use M-x ansi-term that is much better than term. I haven't seen any differences. Maybe because they both use an 'eterm-color' terminal. > You can run many shell in emacs and more. That's the problem I think. Too many way to achieve the main goal. Why not doing one implementation and doing it well ? -- Francis