still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[David Combs]

STILL trying to compile "almost-cvs" 21.3

------------------ Here's the attempted make:

256 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 
256 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 
256 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> make
Your tree does not include the compiled Lisp files.
You need to do `make bootstrap' to build Emacs.
Emacs now requires Texinfo version 4.2.
make: *** [maybe_bootstrap] Error 1

----- Just to show the top-dir:

257 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> ls -AFs
total 3522
   2 .cvsignore           82 INSTALL.~1.109.~    592 config.log            6 etc/                  2 lwlib/                2 oldXMenu/
 118 AUTHORS               8 MAINTAINERS         116 config.status*       10 info/                 2 mac/                  2 site-lisp/
   4 BUGS                 58 Makefile             58 config.sub           12 install-sh           46 make-dist            10 src/
  36 COPYING              56 Makefile.in        1312 configure             2 leim/                 4 man/                  4 update-subdirs
   2 CVS/                 12 README              184 configure.in          2 lib-src/              2 mkdir/                2 vms/
 384 ChangeLog             2 admin/                2 data/                14 lisp/                 2 mkinstalldirs         2 vpath.sed
  18 FTP                   2 autogen.sh            6 du.out                2 lispintro/            2 move-if-change*
  82 INSTALL              20 config.bat*         134 dua.out               4 lispref/              2 msdos/
   6 INSTALL.CVS          80 config.guess          6 epaths.h.950          2 lock/                 2 nt/
282 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 


---- The tail end of the Makefile:

#### Bootstrapping.

### This is meant for Emacs maintainers only.  It first cleans the
### lisp subdirectory, removing all compiled Lisp files.  Then a
### special emacs executable is built from Lisp sources, which is then
### used to compile Lisp files.  The last step is a "normal" make.

.PHONY: bootstrap
.PHONY: maybe_bootstrap

maybe_bootstrap:
	@bar="`echo $(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc`"; \
	if [ \( "$$bar" = '$(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc' \) -o \( "$$bar" = '' \) ]; then \
	  echo "Your tree does not include the compiled Lisp files."; \
	  echo "You need to do \`make bootstrap' to build Emacs."; \
	  echo "Emacs now requires Texinfo version 4.2."; \
	  exit 1;\
	fi

bootstrap: bootstrap-clean-before info FRC
	(cd lisp; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) bootstrap-prepare)
	(cd src; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) bootstrap)
	(cd lisp; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) bootstrap EMACS=../src/bootstrap-emacs${EXEEXT})
	(cd src; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) mostlyclean)
	$(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) all
	(cd lisp; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) bootstrap-after)

### Used for `bootstrap' to avoid deleting existing dumped Emacs executables.
bootstrap-clean-before: FRC
	(cd src;      $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) mostlyclean)
	(cd oldXMenu; $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	(cd lwlib;    $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	(cd lib-src;  $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	-(cd man &&   $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	-(cd lispref &&   $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	-(cd lispintro &&   $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)
	(cd leim;     $(MAKE) $(MFLAGS) clean)

# arch-tag: c1162ff6-e0a8-4366-bc1a-2eb544007156





------- Repeating that code that caught me:

maybe_bootstrap:
	@bar="`echo $(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc`"; \
	if [ \( "$$bar" = '$(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc' \) -o \( "$$bar" = '' \) ]; then \
	  echo "Your tree does not include the compiled Lisp files."; \
	  echo "You need to do \`make bootstrap' to build Emacs."; \
	  echo "Emacs now requires Texinfo version 4.2."; \
	  exit 1;\
	fi


I've now gone and installed texinfo 4.2, and it's on $PATH.

No, no .elc-files.  Why didn't they get built?  Beats me!

And, as instructed, I tried to do the "make bootstrap"; got this:

275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 
275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> make bootstrap
(cd src;      make  mostlyclean)
[Please ignore a syntax error on the next line - it is intentional]
make[1]: Entering directory `/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3/src'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mostlyclean'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3/src'
make: *** [bootstrap-clean-before] Error 2
276 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 


Huh?:  "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mostlyclean'.  Stop."

Hey, cvs-maintainers, do I *really* have to hack this Makefile,
  fix bugs in it?   ("configure" -- hack that too?)

*WAY* beyond my abilities!
   (./configure  and then  make: that's *my* limit!)


Any ideas?

Thanks!

David

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: 16 Jul 2004 21:08:07 -0400
> 
> STILL trying to compile "almost-cvs" 21.3

This is the wrong place to discuss problems with building the CVS
code.  Please in the future write to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.

> ------- Repeating that code that caught me:
> 
> maybe_bootstrap:
> 	@bar="`echo $(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc`"; \
> 	if [ \( "$$bar" = '$(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc' \) -o \( "$$bar" = '' \) ]; then \
> 	  echo "Your tree does not include the compiled Lisp files."; \
> 	  echo "You need to do \`make bootstrap' to build Emacs."; \
> 	  echo "Emacs now requires Texinfo version 4.2."; \
> 	  exit 1;\
> 	fi

That's right: the first time you build the CVS code after checking it
out, you need to say "make bootstrap".

> I've now gone and installed texinfo 4.2, and it's on $PATH.
> 
> No, no .elc-files.  Why didn't they get built?  Beats me!

They are not in the CVS tree, and since your previous bootstrap
failed, they were not built.

> And, as instructed, I tried to do the "make bootstrap"; got this:
> 
> 275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 
> 275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> make bootstrap
> (cd src;      make  mostlyclean)
> [Please ignore a syntax error on the next line - it is intentional]

Where did that message come from?  The only place I can find it in the
CVS is in the nt/gmake.defs file, which should be only used on
Windows.  Are you building this on Windows?  If so, you need to follow
the Windows installation instructions in nt/INSTALL, except that you
should say "make bootstrap" instead of just "make".

> Huh?:  "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mostlyclean'.  Stop."

Probably because you didn't run nt/configure.bat, and so there's no
Makefile in the `src' directory.

> Hey, cvs-maintainers, do I *really* have to hack this Makefile,

No, you don't.

>   fix bugs in it?

What bugs? ;-)

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[David Combs]

In article <mailman.218.1090061068.1960.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
>> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
>> Date: 16 Jul 2004 21:08:07 -0400
>> 
>> STILL trying to compile "almost-cvs" 21.3
>
>This is the wrong place to discuss problems with building the CVS
>code.  Please in the future write to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.

OOPS -- just noticed the above after filling-in a reply.
Hmmm.  Look, I'll shoot this back to the group, just in
case someone has a sudden "ah-ha"; then I'll have to
merge these n-posts, and shoot *that* off to the pretest-people.

Thanks for having a look at this!

David


>
>> ------- Repeating that code that caught me:
>> 
>> maybe_bootstrap:
>> 	@bar="`echo $(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc`"; \
>> 	if [ \( "$$bar" = '$(srcdir)/lisp/*.elc' \) -o \( "$$bar" = '' \) ]; then \
>> 	  echo "Your tree does not include the compiled Lisp files."; \
>> 	  echo "You need to do \`make bootstrap' to build Emacs."; \
>> 	  echo "Emacs now requires Texinfo version 4.2."; \
>> 	  exit 1;\
>> 	fi
>
>That's right: the first time you build the CVS code after checking it
>out, you need to say "make bootstrap".
>
>> I've now gone and installed texinfo 4.2, and it's on $PATH.
>> 
>> No, no .elc-files.  Why didn't they get built?  Beats me!
>
>They are not in the CVS tree, and since your previous bootstrap
>failed, they were not built.
>
>> And, as instructed, I tried to do the "make bootstrap"; got this:
>> 
>> 275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> 
>> 275 ==/big7.1/sources-stuff-2/emacs-21.3==> make bootstrap
>> (cd src;      make  mostlyclean)
>> [Please ignore a syntax error on the next line - it is intentional]
>
>Where did that message come from?  The only place I can find it in the
>CVS is in the nt/gmake.defs file, which should be only used on

No, not windows, but sparc: sunblade 100.  Weird...  Here's a piece of
the ./configure-created Makefile (I use "|" instead of ">"):


 | # ==================== Things `configure' Might Edit ====================
 | 
 | CC=gcc
 | CPP=gcc -E
 | C_SWITCH_SYSTEM= 
 | ALLOCA=
 | LN_S=ln -s
 | CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -mcpu=ultrasparc
 | LDFLAGS=-L/usr/openwin/lib -R/usr/openwin/lib -L/usr/sfw/lib -R/usr/sfw/lib    -L/opt/sfw/lib -R/opt/sfw/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib
 | CPPFLAGS=    
 | C_SWITCH_X_SITE=-I/usr/openwin/include
 | LD_SWITCH_X_SITE=-L/usr/openwin/lib
 | EXEEXT=
 | 
 | ### These help us choose version- and architecture-specific directories
 | ### to install files in.
 | 
 | ### This should be the number of the Emacs version we're building,
 | ### like `18.59' or `19.0'.
 | version=21.3.50
 | 
 | ### This should be the name of the configuration we're building Emacs
 | ### for, like `mips-dec-ultrix' or `sparc-sun-sunos'.
 | configuration=sparc-sun-solaris2.9                 <<<================ SPARC
 | 
 | # ==================== Where To Install Things ====================




>Windows.  Are you building this on Windows?  If so, you need to follow
>the Windows installation instructions in nt/INSTALL, except that you
>should say "make bootstrap" instead of just "make".
>
>> Huh?:  "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `mostlyclean'.  Stop."
>
>Probably because you didn't run nt/configure.bat, and so there's no
>Makefile in the `src' directory.

But there is one, and here's the mostlyclean part of it ("src/Makefile"):

 | intervals.o: intervals.c buffer.h $(INTERVAL_SRC) keyboard.h puresize.h $(config_h)
 | composite.o: composite.c buffer.h  charset.h $(INTERVAL_SRC) $(config_h)
 | sunfns.o: sunfns.c buffer.h window.h dispextern.h $(config_h)
 | ${libsrc}emacstool${EXEEXT}: ${libsrc}emacstool.c
 | 	cd ${libsrc}; ${MAKE} ${MFLAGS} emacstool${EXEEXT}
 | bootstrapclean:
 | 	rm -f bootstrap-emacs${EXEEXT}
 | mostlyclean:
 | 	rm -f temacs${EXEEXT} prefix-args${EXEEXT} core *.core \#* *.o libXMenu11.a liblw.a
 | 	rm -f ../etc/DOC
 | 	rm -f bootstrap-emacs${EXEEXT}
 | clean: mostlyclean
 | 	rm -f emacs-*${EXEEXT} emacs${EXEEXT}
 | distclean: clean
 | 	rm -f epaths.h config.h Makefile Makefile.c config.stamp stamp-oldxmenu ../etc/DOC-*
 | 	mv ./.gdbinit ./.gdbinit.save
 | 	if test -f "${srcdir}/.gdbinit"; then rm -f ./.gdbinit.save; 	else mv ./.gdbinit.save ./.gdbinit; fi



In fact, at least these Makefiles got created on the day
I did the .configure:



This from the top-level Makefile:

 | SUBDIR = lib-src src
 | 
 | # The makefiles of the directories in $SUBDIR.
 | SUBDIR_MAKEFILES = lib-src/Makefile man/Makefile lispref/Makefile lispintro/Makefile src/Makefile oldXMenu/Makefile lwlib/Makefile leim/Makefile
 | 
 | # Subdirectories to install, and where they'll go.





And this from doing (as dired "!"-cmd (the "# *" to fool "!")):

 |   ls -lsAt lib-src/Makefile man/Makefile lispref/Makefile lispintro/Makefile src/Makefile oldXMenu/Makefile lwlib/Makefile leim/Makefile  # *


 |   44 -r--r--r--   1 dkc      other      21799 Jul 16 15:50 src/Makefile
 |   26 -r--r--r--   1 dkc      other      12545 Jul 16 15:50 lib-src/Makefile
 |   16 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       7350 Jul 16 15:50 leim/Makefile
 |    6 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       2153 Jul 16 15:50 lispintro/Makefile
 |    8 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       3878 Jul 16 15:50 lispref/Makefile
 |    4 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       1865 Jul 16 15:50 lwlib/Makefile
 |   20 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       9428 Jul 16 15:50 man/Makefile
 |    6 -rw-r--r--   1 dkc      other       3031 Jul 16 15:50 oldXMenu/Makefile






>
>> Hey, cvs-maintainers, do I *really* have to hack this Makefile,
>
>No, you don't.
>
>>   fix bugs in it?
>
>What bugs? ;-)
>
>


------ dup from above:

>This is the wrong place to discuss problems with building the CVS
>code.  Please in the future write to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.

OOPS -- just noticed the above after filling-in a reply.
Hmmm.  Look, I'll shoot this back to the group, just in
case someone has a sudden "ah-ha"; then I'll have to
merge these n-posts, and shoot *that* off to the pretest-people.

Thanks for having a look at this!

David

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Harry Putnam]

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> This is the wrong place to discuss problems with building the CVS
> code.  Please in the future write to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.

Eli, do you know if that mail group is available on news.gmane.org?

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:02:36 -0500
> 
> > This is the wrong place to discuss problems with building the CVS
> > code.  Please in the future write to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.
> 
> Eli, do you know if that mail group is available on news.gmane.org?

This is a mailing list, so there's no sense in looking it on a
newsgroup server.

Just send email to that address as if it were a person.

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Miles Bader]

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> Eli, do you know if that mail group is available on news.gmane.org?
>
> This is a mailing list, so there's no sense in looking it on a
> newsgroup server.

gmane is a nntp server that makes mailing lists available to news
clients.

emacs-pretest-bug is available on gmane as "gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs".

-Miles
-- 
A zen-buddhist walked into a pizza shop and
said, "Make me one with everything."

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Harry Putnam]

"Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Eli, do you know if that mail group is available on news.gmane.org?
>
> This is a mailing list, so there's no sense in looking it on a
> newsgroup server.

All the groups on news.gmane.org are mail lists
> Just send email to that address as if it were a person.

And if wanted to see all the messages?

gmane performs a service where it converts mail lists to news format. 
Very handy I think. I shouldn't have assumed you'd know about it.

I trawled thru its active list but they sometimes change the names of
mail groups so I wondered if it were called something else there.

Maybe someone else here knows?

Re: still failing to "make" almost-cvs 21.3

[Harry Putnam]

Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

> gmane is a nntp server that makes mailing lists available to news
> clients.

Oh sorry Miles, I hadn't noticed your post and posted another reply to
Eli.

> gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs  

Thanks.  I must have just overlooked in my scan.