From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: paulgor@compuserve.com (Paul Gorodyansky) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Copying and pasting Cyrillic text between Emacs and other apps Date: 28 Jan 2004 12:32:07 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <36b165a.0401281232.2eb7668d@posting.google.com> References: <36b165a.0401271516.c68fa38@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075323639 12373 80.91.224.253 (28 Jan 2004 21:00:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 28 22:00:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AlwnZ-0005YU-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:00:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlwaZ-0005td-3F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:47:07 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.175.229.3 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1075321927 29698 127.0.0.1 (28 Jan 2004 20:32:07 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:120532 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:16481 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:16481 Eli Zaretskii wrote in message news:... > > Date: 28 Jan 2004 08:27:22 +0200 > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > > Btw, does anyone know of a tool that can show what's in the clipboard > > together with how the text is encoded there? > > Found it. Google for ClipConvert and for Album from RWS Localization > Tools. I looked at the screen-shot of Album... IMHO, it may be perfect for you and me, but definitely not for and end user who has no idea about Internationalization, so I doubt I'd put it as a suggestion on my page... (free) Netscape 4.8 is *so* much easier, quicker, simpler - standard scenario (based on numerious e-mails I get): - English computer (Windows 95...XP) - person works with non-Western texts, say Cyrillic (1251) - Netscape 4.8 has - unlike IE - Default Encoding, so a person has his non-Western encoding as default there. It means that every time he opens Netscape Composer, that encoding is already a current one in that window - now he needs to copy Cyrillic text from IE or Word to a non-Unicode window of a text editor or say Dreamweaver - no need to do those I18n specific things and settings and selections as Album requires to do (BTW, does Album require you to select needed options _every time_?): just copy your text from Word to Netscape Composer window and then copy from there to your destination! It's so-o-o simple :) I use it all the time, because my working tool is a non-Unicode plain text editor UltraEdit. -- Regards, Paul Gorodyansky "Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet": http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/