* emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
@ 2011-04-03 20:17 Xah Lee
2011-04-03 21:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Xah Lee @ 2011-04-03 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
this seems to be a UI bug.
in dired, type ~ to flag backup files. Then, type x to delete them.
Dired will prompt you with “Delete D [251 files] (y or n)” with a list
of files to be deleted on the top pane.
However, when you have more files to fit in a window, part of the list
is not visible, and there's no way to view them. You can't page up/
down, cant scroll it. I haven't found a way to view it.
anyone got a method?
Xah
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
2011-04-03 20:17 emacs dired: unable to view deletion list Xah Lee
@ 2011-04-03 21:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2011-04-03 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> From: Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
> this seems to be a UI bug.
No, it's a feature ;-)
> in dired, type ~ to flag backup files. Then, type x to delete them.
> Dired will prompt you with “Delete D [251 files] (y or n)” with a list
> of files to be deleted on the top pane.
>
> However, when you have more files to fit in a window, part of the list
> is not visible, and there's no way to view them. You can't page up/
> down, cant scroll it. I haven't found a way to view it.
>
> anyone got a method?
C-M-v or M-PgDn work for me.
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
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@ 2011-04-03 23:37 ` Xah Lee
2011-04-04 0:06 ` Drew Adams
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From: Xah Lee @ 2011-04-03 23:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Apr 3, 2:01 pm, Eli Zaretskii <e...@gnu.org> wrote:
> > From: Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > this seems to be a UI bug.
>
> No, it's a feature ;-)
>
> > in dired, type ~ to flag backup files. Then, type x to delete them.
> > Dired will prompt you with “Delete D [251 files] (y or n)” with a list
> > of files to be deleted on the top pane.
>
> > However, when you have more files to fit in a window, part of the list
> > is not visible, and there's no way to view them. You can't page up/
> > down, cant scroll it. I haven't found a way to view it.
>
> > anyone got a method?
>
> C-M-v or M-PgDn work for me.
Thanks!
that's odd... something not apparent in my customization is doing
it... could it dired-plus?
Xah
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* RE: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
2011-04-03 23:37 ` Xah Lee
@ 2011-04-04 0:06 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2011-04-04 0:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Xah Lee', help-gnu-emacs
> > C-M-v or M-PgDn work for me.
>
> Thanks! that's odd... something not apparent in my
> customization is doing it... could it dired-plus?
I don't think so. With Dired+ I can use C-M-v and C-M-S-v this way without a
problem.
Just a thought: The part of the list that is not shown, at least for me, is the
upper part. Eli's suggestion of `C-M-v' does nothing in that case, since you
are already at the bottom. Did you try `C-M-S-v' (aka `C-M-V') to scroll up
instead of down?
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
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@ 2011-04-04 1:56 ` Xah Lee
2011-04-04 3:30 ` Drew Adams
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From: Xah Lee @ 2011-04-04 1:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Apr 3, 5:06 pm, "Drew Adams" <drew.ad...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > C-M-v or M-PgDn work for me.
>
> > Thanks! that's odd... something not apparent in my
> > customization is doing it... could it dired-plus?
>
> I don't think so. With Dired+ I can use C-M-v and C-M-S-v this way without a
> problem.
>
> Just a thought: The part of the list that is not shown, at least for me, is the
> upper part. Eli's suggestion of `C-M-v' does nothing in that case, since you
> are already at the bottom. Did you try `C-M-S-v' (aka `C-M-V') to scroll up
> instead of down?
Thanks Drew.
Found the problem. It is
(defalias 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
though, odd it should be that way. This can be considered a bug?
Xah
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* RE: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
2011-04-04 1:56 ` Xah Lee
@ 2011-04-04 3:30 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2011-04-04 3:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Xah Lee', help-gnu-emacs
> Thanks Drew. Found the problem. It is
> (defalias 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
> though, odd it should be that way. This can be considered a bug?
You might report a usability bug, to see what the Emacs developers think.
My guess, without looking too far, is that this is because `y-or-n-p' reads a
key directly (using `read-key') and looks it up in keymap `query-replace-map'.
The key sequences `C-M-v' and `C-M-V' are not defined there, and it doesn't seem
to look beyond that map. In that map it only handles certain keys (see the
`cond' in `y-or-n-p').
These are the keys available in the keymap:
,----
| query-replace-map
| -----------------
|
| Keymap that defines the responses to questions in `query-replace'.
| The "bindings" in this map are not commands; they are answers.
| The valid answers include `act', `skip', `act-and-show',
| `exit', `act-and-exit', `edit', `delete-and-edit', `recenter',
| `automatic', `backup', `exit-prefix', and `help'.
|
| key binding
| --- -------
|
| C-g quit
| C-h help
| C-l recenter
| RET exit
| C-r edit
| C-w delete-and-edit
| ESC exit-prefix
| C-] quit
| SPC act
| ! automatic
| , act-and-show
| . act-and-exit
| ? help
| E edit-replacement
| N skip
| Y act
| ^ backup
| e edit-replacement
| n skip
| q exit
| y act
| DEL skip
| <backspace> skip
| <delete> skip
| <escape> exit-prefix
| <f1> help
| <help> help
| <return> exit
|
| [back]
`----
HTH
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
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@ 2011-04-04 4:06 ` Xah Lee
2011-04-04 12:31 ` Sean Sieger
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From: Xah Lee @ 2011-04-04 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Apr 3, 8:30 pm, "Drew Adams" <drew.ad...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Drew. Found the problem. It is
> > (defalias 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
> > though, odd it should be that way. This can be considered a bug?
>
> You might report a usability bug, to see what the Emacs developers think.
>
> My guess, without looking too far, is that this is because `y-or-n-p' reads a
> key directly (using `read-key') and looks it up in keymap `query-replace-map'.
> The key sequences `C-M-v' and `C-M-V' are not defined there, and it doesn't seem
> to look beyond that map. In that map it only handles certain keys (see the
> `cond' in `y-or-n-p').
>
> These are the keys available in the keymap:
>
> ,----
> | query-replace-map
> | -----------------
> |
> | Keymap that defines the responses to questions in `query-replace'.
> | The "bindings" in this map are not commands; they are answers.
> | The valid answers include `act', `skip', `act-and-show',
> | `exit', `act-and-exit', `edit', `delete-and-edit', `recenter',
> | `automatic', `backup', `exit-prefix', and `help'.
> |
> | key binding
> | --- -------
> |
> | C-g quit
> | C-h help
> | C-l recenter
> | RET exit
> | C-r edit
> | C-w delete-and-edit
> | ESC exit-prefix
> | C-] quit
> | SPC act
> | ! automatic
> | , act-and-show
> | . act-and-exit
> | ? help
> | E edit-replacement
> | N skip
> | Y act
> | ^ backup
> | e edit-replacement
> | n skip
> | q exit
> | y act
> | DEL skip
> | <backspace> skip
> | <delete> skip
> | <escape> exit-prefix
> | <f1> help
> | <help> help
> | <return> exit
> |
> | [back]
> `----
>
> HTH
thanks Drew. I filed a bug report. Subject: possible bug: Delete File
List Not Visible when yes-or-no aliased to y-or-n-p
don't know the bug number yet.
Xah
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
2011-04-04 4:06 ` Xah Lee
@ 2011-04-04 12:31 ` Sean Sieger
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From: Sean Sieger @ 2011-04-04 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:
thanks Drew. I filed a bug report. Subject: possible bug: Delete File
List Not Visible when yes-or-no aliased to y-or-n-p
don't know the bug number yet.
I noticed that the post didn't include a number in the subject line.
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@ 2011-04-04 13:59 ` B. T. Raven
2011-04-04 17:44 ` Xah Lee
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From: B. T. Raven @ 2011-04-04 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Sean Sieger wrote:
> Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:
> thanks Drew. I filed a bug report. Subject: possible bug: Delete File
> List Not Visible when yes-or-no aliased to y-or-n-p
>
> don't know the bug number yet.
>
> I noticed that the post didn't include a number in the subject line.
>
>
Could that specific problem be avoided by reassigning via fset rather
than defalias?:
(fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
Ed
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* Re: emacs dired: unable to view deletion list
2011-04-04 13:59 ` B. T. Raven
@ 2011-04-04 17:44 ` Xah Lee
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From: Xah Lee @ 2011-04-04 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Apr 4, 6:59 am, "B. T. Raven" <ni...@nihilo.net> wrote:
> Sean Sieger wrote:
> > Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> writes:
> > thanks Drew. I filed a bug report. Subject: possible bug: Delete File
> > List Not Visible when yes-or-no aliased to y-or-n-p
>
> > don't know the bug number yet.
>
> > I noticed that the post didn't include a number in the subject line.
>
> Could that specific problem be avoided by reassigning via fset rather
> than defalias?:
>
> (fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p)
>
> Ed
interesting suggestion. Haven't used fset before, might be useful.
it didn't help in this case though.
PS the bug number is http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8418
Xah
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