From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Default coding system ? Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:43:45 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3405-Fri05Dec2003174344+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070639185 24992 80.91.224.253 (5 Dec 2003 15:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 16:46:22 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASI9u-0002n4-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:46:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASJ6a-0007ve-Rd for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:47:00 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASJ6Q-0007vY-5k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:46:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASJ5t-0007H9-8D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:46:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASJ5q-00077S-CE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:46:14 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski ([80.230.147.167]) by legolas.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.8-GR) with ESMTP id AWV66996; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:44:40 +0200 (IST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Jesper Harder on Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:10:43 +0100) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:14975 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:14975 > Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help > From: Jesper Harder > Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:10:43 +0100 > > > > Why do you need courage to read the documentation? The manual doesn't > > bite, you know. So please do try reading it, and if something there > > isn't clear, please complain on gnu.emacs.bug about documentation > > quality. > > I agree with Francois that it's a mess. Care to explain why? > It don't really blame the documentation -- it's more the design > that's hard to understand and use, i.e. the multibyte vs. unibyte > distinction and character-set vs. coding-system vs. mime-charset. It's a complex issue, so it's no surprise that it's hard to understand. However, understanding of the design is not (and should not, IMHO) be an obstacle to efficient use. > Also, stuff like CCL and MULE isn't particularly well documented. So you do blame the documentation...