From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: emacs stackexchange beta site Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3370d086-c9d5-49b4-a7d7-5a04f17ceb74@default> References: <874mw5q15w.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a95wy73q.fsf@debian.uxu> <87mw9vbezf.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1411156778 22621 80.91.229.3 (19 Sep 2014 19:59:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:59:38 +0000 (UTC) To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 21:59:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XV4L2-0000Ka-NA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:59:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60329 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XV4L2-0003eD-BV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:59:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XV4Ki-0003c9-97 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XV4KZ-0005uz-Hf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:29582) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XV4KZ-0005nO-CS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s8JJwq6e024393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:58:53 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8JJwqAn000750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:58:52 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8JJwqgG000743; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:58:52 GMT In-Reply-To: <87mw9vbezf.fsf@debian.uxu> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100047 Archived-At: > >> Adding an emacs SX site just adds one more site to > >> monitor, because I guess it won't be forbiden to ask > >> an emacs question on superuser or tex in the future. > > > > That was exactly my point. >=20 > That's the strangest point ever. How can an > Emacs-specific site make it more difficult to monitor? > It will be *easier* to monitor because all Emacs stuff > will be at one place! What makes you think that will be the case? > > And I don't see any great "PR" advantage, personally. > > Is it so hard for users of SE sites to learn about > > tags and filters? >=20 > Again, the tags will be much more elaborate and > Emacs-specific on the Emacs site. Nothing prevents you from creating Emacs-specific tags today. Make them as elaborate as you like. Nothing is more elaborate than elaborate-as-you-like. > > Especially Emacs users and potential users? > > If Emacs really needs PR that reaches past an > > individual's ability to learn how to search for Emacs > > questions and answers and throws "!! EMACS !!" > > directly in their face so they'll notice it better, > > then it's a sad day for Emacs and Emacs users > > generally (IMHO). >=20 > Emacs shouldn't be a holy grale at the end of the > rainbow. I have no problems with kids and morons > starting to use Emacs at any stage of their age/degree > of moronity. It won't make anyone more stupid and some > will learn tremendously from it. Some will contribute > themselves, one day. We have schools and we force the > kids to go there. We don't expect the kids to be > alright and eventually figure out how to write, read, > count, and behave, left all alone. We obviously can't > force anyone to use the software we believe in but we > can give it maximum exposure so that at least a > fraction of the computer people of tomorrow will know > of other software than the MS and Apple IDEs. Blah. But I do support the idea of anyone, "at any stage", including kids and the supposedly mentally challenged, starting to use Emacs. Welcome!