From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xah Lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Need help installing NTemacs -- no evident README or INSTALL file Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <32b9547a-127d-4e62-815d-154cdb49e100@j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com> References: <7edd3618-2f6f-4b64-afe2-b2e162eeb7ea@o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273210901 16314 80.91.229.12 (7 May 2010 05:41:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 05:41:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 07 07:41:40 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OAGJf-0006Xo-5z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:41:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OAGJe-00019v-G8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 May 2010 01:41:38 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 45 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.102.12.87 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1273207829 10744 127.0.0.1 (7 May 2010 04:50:29 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 04:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j36g2000prj.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.102.12.87; posting-account=bRPKjQoAAACxZsR8_VPXCX27T2YcsyMA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/4.1.249.1064 Safari/532.5,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:178027 comp.emacs:99815 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:73552 Archived-At: On May 6, 4:51=C2=A0pm, dkco...@panix.com (David Combs) wrote: > And please someone look at this "NTemacs" -- how does it differ > from this emacs<32> versions you two are talking about? =C2=A0Could they > perhaps be one and the same? Gah, you sound like a Dinosaur David. :) inspired by your post, i wrote a more general tutorial on this: =E2=80=A2 Which Emacs to Download for Windows and Mac? http://xahlee.org/emacs/which_emacs.html NTEmacs is pretty much like GNU Emacs. That is, plain emacs. In fact, they are just compiled on different PCs, that's all. > I recall from last summer downloading cygwin, and checking "emacs" as > one of the programs to include along with it. =C2=A0When I ran it, > it was emacs all right, but it came up in only that small black > and white "dos window", miserable. =C2=A0Whereas this NTemacs would expan= d > to the entire screen, full colors, seemingly identical to what > I had on my Sunblade-100. gah... of course. The emacs in cygwin runs in Windows Console. You could also have emacs in cygwin that runs on X11. But that means you must have used cygwin to install X11 first, and the emacs version in cygwin you installed must be compiled with X11 support. > I'm sort of surprised that no one seems to have heard of this thing, > ntemacs. =C2=A0Someone, please, have a look at it, tell us all what > you think. =C2=A0It is version 23.0.0.1, nice and new. if all you want is to run emacs in Windows with reasonable gui support, all the ones i mentioned all works well as i described and easy to install. It's not like in the 1990s or early 2000s where in order to run emacs on Windows you have to compile your own, by first spending weeks, months, getting all the right working ports gcc and tools for Windows... Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84