From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: bre Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Where does a begginer begin Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32353194.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1314584284 31842 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2011 02:18:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:18:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 29 04:17:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QxrQD-0000nH-Qu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 04:17:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51764 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxrQD-0007uB-8P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxmIO-0007PF-EO for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxmIN-0002ta-7p for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:49:32 -0400 Original-Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:54242) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QxmIN-0002tO-4W for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 16:49:31 -0400 Original-Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QxmIL-0000Lo-Mj for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:49:29 -0700 X-Nabble-From: forpeopleidontknow@gmail.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.139.236.26 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 22:17:53 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82083 Archived-At: I've been using emacs for basic text editing here and there for a few years now. I've never been able to get very far in customizing it, and doing anything beyond text edition, because any documentation sites intended to be helpful I come across seems to assume way more knowledge than I have. For example, today I wanted to figure out how to make a latex template that is loaded when I create a .tex file. The simplest way to do it seems to be auto-insert mode. But how to use auto-insert mode? OK, this website has some information: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AutoInsertMode but notice they have a bunch of elisp code, and never tell you where to enter the elisp code it gives? Do I put it in a file? Do I put it in *scratch*? I tried the scratch pad, but I got all kinds of strange results, and the end it simply didn't work. Is emacs documentation this hopeless? This is just one example. I have a difficult time doing anything beyond basic text editing with emacs, because of this documentation issue. All documentation seems to assume either the person is a complete beginner, giving basic text editing documentation. Or assume the person is quite familiar with it. There seems to be a big gap in between. Anybody else have this problem? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Where-does-a-begginer-begin-tp32353194p32353194.html Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.