From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter S Galbraith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Importing tab-delimited text files or connecting to ODBC Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3152.1140287129@mixed> References: <7ey80aj1fi.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> <1140194141.208572.236910@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140298267 29965 80.91.229.2 (18 Feb 2006 21:31:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 18 22:31:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAZfI-0002RJ-OJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:30:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAZfI-0001aY-5k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:30:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FAWmQ-0002qb-NP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FAWmE-0002nE-U4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FAWmE-0002my-Er for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [142.169.1.151] (helo=smtp1.globetrotter.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FAWrk-0007WF-Bv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:31:33 -0500 Original-Received: from (192.168.250.8) by avas6.globetrotter.net via smtp id 204c_59a4cf0a_a0b0_11da_8541_0002b3ee5772; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mixed.dyndns.org (c207.134.242-241.clta.globetrotter.net [207.134.242.241]) by smtp1.globetrotter.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2) with ESMTP id <0IUW007KZB6HLF@"TELUS Quebec"> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from (207.134.242.241) by avas6.globetrotter.net via smtp id 204b_56d3d032_a0b0_11da_81ca_0002b3ee5772; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:56:59 -0500 Original-Received: by mixed.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4708A8257; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mixed (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mixed.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7DB1674C7; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 13:25:29 -0500 (EST) In-reply-to: Original-To: Tim McNamara X-Mailer: MH-E 7.91+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-Image-URL: http://people.debian.org/~psg/face.png Comments: In-reply-to Tim McNamara message dated "Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:06:38 -0600." X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:33293 Archived-At: Tim McNamara wrote: > Maks Romih writes: > > > "Eric Pement" writes: > > > >> Maks Romih wrote: > >> > >> > [...] I want to have some tool to connect to or import from other > >> > data sources, especially relational DBMS-es, excel, MS Access, > >> > etc. > >> > >> I think the difficulty with your search being fulfilled is that you > >> are hoping to have Emacs, which is GNU-founded "free software", > >> find a way to import data structures created by proprietary, > >> non-free software. I suggest that there could be a philosophical > >> hesitation for some people in getting free software to support > >> commercial, non-free software. I think we're lucky to get GNU Emacs > >> available for WinNT! > > > > I'm exploring these possibilities exactly because I'm not satisfied > > with "non-free software". > > I would recommend comparing what file types Emacs can import into the > major modes of interest to you, and then seeing what the unfree > applications can export. For example, there are many types of > spreadsheet and database file formats that are cross-compatible. CSV, > SYLK, etc. Many unfree applications do support file types that free > software applications can read. If you export the Excel data as CSV, then you can use csv-mode.el to read them in Emacs. It's likely that table.el can import them too. If you use Debian, install the package emacs-goodies-el to get both those add-ons. Peter