* Changing key bindings of printable chars
@ 2004-06-24 21:04 Paul Batt
2004-06-24 23:34 ` Michael Slass
2004-06-24 23:46 ` David Vanderschel
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From: Paul Batt @ 2004-06-24 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
How can I change the key binding of a single printable character key to
another? I need to have "z" and "Z" print "y" and "Y" and vice versa and I
need to have RET do a double-return e.g. two line feeds instead of only one.
(I found many peaces of instruction how to change key bindings of double
key-strokes like C-x but can't just figure out how to do it for a single
printable character key). Thank you.
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-24 21:04 Changing key bindings of printable chars Paul Batt
@ 2004-06-24 23:34 ` Michael Slass
2004-06-25 0:55 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-06-25 20:31 ` Paul Batt
2004-06-24 23:46 ` David Vanderschel
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From: Michael Slass @ 2004-06-24 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
>How can I change the key binding of a single printable character key to
>another? I need to have "z" and "Z" print "y" and "Y" and vice versa and I
>need to have RET do a double-return e.g. two line feeds instead of only one.
>(I found many peaces of instruction how to change key bindings of double
>key-strokes like C-x but can't just figure out how to do it for a single
>printable character key). Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
for Y,y,Z, and z ...
(local-set-key "Y" (lambda () (interactive) (insert "Z")))
... and so on
for return
(local-set-key "\C-m" (lambda () (interactive) (newline 2)))
I'm almost afraid to ask why you want this, but not quite. Why do you
want this?
--
Mike Slass
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-24 21:04 Changing key bindings of printable chars Paul Batt
2004-06-24 23:34 ` Michael Slass
@ 2004-06-24 23:46 ` David Vanderschel
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From: David Vanderschel @ 2004-06-24 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> wrote in message
news:2k0tudF160v27U1@uni-berlin.de...
> How can I change the key binding of a single printable character key to
> another? I need to have "z" and "Z" print "y" and "Y" and vice versa
Check out keyboard-translate-table in the "Translating
Input" info node for elisp. The keyboard-translate
function is probably what you need. (I just made an
interesting mistake testing it: I did
(keyboard-translate ?z ?y) first, and I could not
easilz ( :) ) do (keyboard-translate ?y ?z) because I
could no longer enter a z! I solved the problem by
copying one from the buffer. Word to the wise:
Compose both functions calls before executing either.)
>and I need to have RET do a double-return e.g. two
>line feeds instead of only one. ...
I am not sure, but I think this probably requires use
of the function-key-map (same info node). You may be
confusing ^M and ^J.
Regards,
David V.
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-24 23:34 ` Michael Slass
@ 2004-06-25 0:55 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-06-25 18:22 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-06-25 20:31 ` Paul Batt
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From: John Paul Wallington @ 2004-06-25 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Michael Slass <miknrene@drizzle.com> writes:
> "Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
>
>>How can I change the key binding of a single printable character key to
>>another? I need to have "z" and "Z" print "y" and "Y" and vice versa and I
[...]
> for Y,y,Z, and z ...
> (local-set-key "Y" (lambda () (interactive) (insert "Z")))
Commands needn't be functions -- they could be simple keyboard macros,
eg: (global-set-key "Y" "Z")
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-25 0:55 ` John Paul Wallington
@ 2004-06-25 18:22 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-06-26 0:30 ` John Paul Wallington
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2004-06-25 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
John Paul Wallington wrote:
> Michael Slass <miknrene@drizzle.com> writes:
>>"Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
>>>How can I change the key binding of a single printable character key to
>>>another? I need to have "z" and "Z" print "y" and "Y" and vice versa and I
> [...]
>
>>for Y,y,Z, and z ...
>>(local-set-key "Y" (lambda () (interactive) (insert "Z")))
>
> Commands needn't be functions -- they could be simple keyboard macros,
> eg: (global-set-key "Y" "Z")
Yes, but that combined with (global-set-key "Z" "Y") to meet Paul's
requirements leads to infinite recursion.
--
Kevin Rodgers
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-24 23:34 ` Michael Slass
2004-06-25 0:55 ` John Paul Wallington
@ 2004-06-25 20:31 ` Paul Batt
2004-06-25 22:56 ` Michael Slass
2004-06-30 15:34 ` Kai Grossjohann
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From: Paul Batt @ 2004-06-25 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Michael Slass" <miknrene@drizzle.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:m3zn6s1qev.fsf@eric.rossnet.com...
> "Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
(...)
> I'm almost afraid to ask why you want this, but not quite. Why do you
> want this?
Mike
I expected the question. The Z-Y thing is because I write German in an
English environment occasionally. English and German keyboards have Z and Y
replaced with each other. I could handle this by changing the keyboard
settings in the OS of course, but other (English tongue) people use the
computer also, and I might one day forget to switch back; they'd probably
kill me. Double-RET is because I use refill-mode and longlines-mode and I
found these to work better with an emtpy line between paragraphs (there is
also the idea with "hard" Returns, but this does not help much and besides
that I prefer two line feed paragraphs in plain ascii text anyway). So I
hope to somehow get my own minor mode working with Z and Y replaced and a
double line feed for my texts.
-Paul
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-25 20:31 ` Paul Batt
@ 2004-06-25 22:56 ` Michael Slass
2004-06-26 0:05 ` Paul Batt
2004-06-30 15:34 ` Kai Grossjohann
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Michael Slass @ 2004-06-25 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
>Mike
>I expected the question. The Z-Y thing is because I write German in an
>English environment occasionally. English and German keyboards have Z and Y
>replaced with each other. I could handle this by changing the keyboard
>settings in the OS of course, but other (English tongue) people use the
>computer also, and I might one day forget to switch back; they'd probably
>kill me. Double-RET is because I use refill-mode and longlines-mode and I
>found these to work better with an emtpy line between paragraphs (there is
>also the idea with "hard" Returns, but this does not help much and besides
>that I prefer two line feed paragraphs in plain ascii text anyway). So I
>hope to somehow get my own minor mode working with Z and Y replaced and a
>double line feed for my texts.
>-Paul
Ok, thanks for satisfying my curiosity :)
Did any of the posted answers work for you?
--
Mike Slass
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-25 22:56 ` Michael Slass
@ 2004-06-26 0:05 ` Paul Batt
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From: Paul Batt @ 2004-06-26 0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Michael Slass" <miknrene@drizzle.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:m3d63nz1p7.fsf@eric.rossnet.com...
> "Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
>
> Ok, thanks for satisfying my curiosity :)
> Did any of the posted answers work for you?
Don't know yet. I'll try next week. If not I'll be glad if I may ask again.
Thanks, so far.
Paul
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-25 18:22 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2004-06-26 0:30 ` John Paul Wallington
2004-06-26 1:26 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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From: John Paul Wallington @ 2004-06-26 0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:
> > Commands needn't be functions -- they could be simple keyboard macros,
> > eg: (global-set-key "Y" "Z")
>
> Yes, but that combined with (global-set-key "Z" "Y") to meet Paul's
> requirements leads to infinite recursion.
Doh! I should have paid attention to what Paul asked.
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-26 0:30 ` John Paul Wallington
@ 2004-06-26 1:26 ` Pascal Bourguignon
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From: Pascal Bourguignon @ 2004-06-26 1:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
John Paul Wallington <jpw@gnu.org> writes:
> Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > > Commands needn't be functions -- they could be simple keyboard macros,
> > > eg: (global-set-key "Y" "Z")
> >
> > Yes, but that combined with (global-set-key "Z" "Y") to meet Paul's
> > requirements leads to infinite recursion.
>
> Doh! I should have paid attention to what Paul asked.
But not:
(global-set-key "Y" (lambda()(interactive"*")(insert "Z")))
(global-set-key "Z" (lambda()(interactive"*")(insert "Y")))
(global-set-key "y" (lambda()(interactive"*")(insert "z")))
(global-set-key "z" (lambda()(interactive"*")(insert "y")))
And note that in anycase, using C-q z gives z and C-q y gives y.
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not
want merely because you think it would be good for him. -- Robert Heinlein
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* Re: Changing key bindings of printable chars
2004-06-25 20:31 ` Paul Batt
2004-06-25 22:56 ` Michael Slass
@ 2004-06-30 15:34 ` Kai Grossjohann
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From: Kai Grossjohann @ 2004-06-30 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Paul Batt" <paul@pbatt.ch> writes:
> I expected the question. The Z-Y thing is because I write German in an
> English environment occasionally. English and German keyboards have Z and Y
> replaced with each other.
Perhaps C-u C-\ german RET fits the bill? It changes some other
keys, too.
Kai
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