From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using babel Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:19:39 +0200 Message-ID: <2E33D521-8BB3-4E57-A6CB-05D388304A6C@Web.DE> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1187792444 31969 80.91.229.12 (22 Aug 2007 14:20:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Hadron Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 22 16:20:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1INr4Y-0001rR-J3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:20:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INr4X-00023S-8R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INr42-0001uK-6p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1INr3x-0001rr-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1INr3x-0001rk-B2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1INr3u-0001Ar-ST for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:20:00 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45F294BC8F4; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [62.134.234.9] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.108 #197) id 1INr3e-0004mv-00; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:19:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19sEjSAn0L/HsroVvQOtBUGzGKQStS344MOERV8 LfsVhvQZSm6gSZz4p3ery3JjpNpNDDBwllP2VhickMUwYCvnZy Zq0k9ZN1S9S5CAkfJWlg== X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46745 Archived-At: Am 22.08.2007 um 15:18 schrieb Hadron: > So why is the text returned from Babel full of escaped characters? > > e.g > > Der schnelle braune Fuchs sprang \303\274ber die Br\303\274cke. The buffer isn't in UTF-8 encoded? ; oct dec hex UCS2 UTF-8 ;=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =FC =3D 374 =3D 252 =3D FC =3D U+00FC =3D C3 BC : LATIN SMALL LETTER = U WITH =20 DIAERESIS Octal 303 is hex C3, octal 274 is hex BC. Both are no regular =20 characters in your buffer's encoding, so they're presented in octal =20 and so "Der schnelle braune Fuchs sprang \303\274ber die Br\303=20 \274cke." is the sentence "Der schnelle braune Fuchs sprang =FCber die =20= Br=FCcke." presented to you as UTF-8 encoded inside a non-UTF-8 encoded =20= buffer. Tell babel to not return UTF-8 or change your buffer's encoding. -- Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen Pete Eine Fehlentscheidung auf Anhieb spart immerhin Zeit. (Helmar Nahr)