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[128.53.17.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i186sm3895278pfg.75.2017.11.07.07.28.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Nov 2017 07:28:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87wp32f7os.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.4.7) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22e X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114773 Archived-At: > On Nov 8, 2017, at 0:08, Loris Bennett = wrote: >=20 >> Emacs is not a text editor, it is >> a Lisp virtual machine with text editing functions. >=20 > According to https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ GNU Emacs is: > An extensible, customizable, free/libre text editor =E2=80=94 and = more. Obviously. Who wants a Lisp virtual machine nowadays. > My point was that you are comparing the editing idiom of Emacs, which > arose in the 1980s, with that of more modern editors. In addition, = you > are talking about what you need, rather than what "users" need. No, I am actually talking about expectations from using emacs where = regions are highlighted, like what isearch seems like doing. What I am = seeing is what looks like a region (and except for the active match, all = the others are highlighted exactly as a region would be), but it doesn't = act like a region. So there is a UI promise that's broken. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- @brandelune http://mac4translators.blogspot.com