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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4f99d7ebc444fc302d0e45427beb0bbd; Wed, 17 Jan 2024 06:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Content-Language: en-US X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22010 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.aol Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.148; envelope-from=proto.enigma@verizon.net; helo=sonic314-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 05:53:52 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145745 Archived-At: I'm using emacs 28.2 on a Mac laptop. Normally I view or edit files from Dired by putting the cursor on a file name and typing V (to view) or pressing Enter (to edit). This used to work perfectly well and still does for most files, but now there are some text files (mostly perl scripts, usually having no extension) that will cause emacs to completely lock up so nothing I do within emacs has any effect, and all I can do is kill the process from the command line or using "Force Quit Applications from the OS), and then run emacs again. This will happen consistently for some files but not for most others. I don't know if the affected files contain one or more characters that cause this to happen, because they behave normally if I "cat" them from the shell or view them with TextEdit. Any help would be appreciated! Tom