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From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@elta.co.il>
Subject: Re: virtual space?
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:37:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2719-Wed22Oct2003163749+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <I0llb.455$I04.10@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> (mdurland@ix.netcom.com)

> From: "Michael Durland" <mdurland@ix.netcom.com>
> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 01:26:00 GMT
> >
> > Emacs has an optional feature to cause it pop up a new frame
> > (``window'' in your parlance) to display comlpetion results.  See the
> > documentation of the variable `special-display-buffer-names'.  Why
> > isn't this sufficient?
> 
> Is there a way to show these spawned special frames without an actual
> "frame" around them?  That is, just the window contents with no title bar,
> no resizing border, etc.  Just the actual contents inside the frame?

I don't understand why is this an issue (can you explain?), but it
sounds like the default Emacs behavior, whereby the possible
completions are shown in a window in the same frame, should satisfy
your needs, since there's no new frame borders involved.  What am I
missing?

> That way it could appear on top of the existing frame and have the
> appearance that it is part of the same frame.

A separate window popped by Emacs by default in the same frame is, in
fact, part of the same frame.  What's wrong with that?

> I found how to specify some properties
> of the frame, like position and size, but I didn't figure out how to specify
> system properties like what "style" the spawned frame has.

What do you mean by the frame's ``style''?

> Another example where this is useful is to have a virtual ruler that
> floats around over the text.  This can be used to measure how wide
> strings are.

You can easily find out the length of a string in Emacs without any
ruler.

> I have found this feature useful in the past.

Any other useful applications of the ruler, besides string length?

> With a real frame, the "frame stuff" gets in the way of the actual
> contents, which in this case would be numbers with tick marks as
> periods.

It is possible, at least in principle, to have frames without borders
(that's how Emacs creates tooltips, a.k.a. ``balloon help''), if that
is important, although I don't think you can do that now in Emacs.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-22 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-19 21:31 virtual space? Michael Durland
2003-10-19 21:52 ` Sudarshan S. Chawathe
2003-10-19 23:25   ` Michael Durland
2003-10-20  5:36     ` Björn Lindström
2003-10-21  1:52       ` Michael Durland
2003-10-21  4:07         ` Dan Anderson
2003-10-21  5:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-21  8:47         ` Barman Brakjoller
2003-10-21 15:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-22  1:33             ` Michael Durland
     [not found]         ` <mailman.2047.1066715377.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-22  1:26           ` Michael Durland
2003-10-22 14:37             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2213.1066834114.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-22 15:55               ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-22 17:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.2225.1066844986.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-12-02 21:09                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-10-22 17:29               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-02 21:04         ` Kai Grossjohann

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