From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: List of major modes? // "switch-to-mode"?? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: <2679671F-4743-47EF-95F5-6BB303B0D626@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131734821 16408 80.91.229.2 (11 Nov 2005 18:47:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:47:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs help Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 19:47:00 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadu3-000886-PP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:45:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadu3-0004zM-6v for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadtp-0004zG-6P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:21 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadtn-0004z3-Mg for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eadtn-0004z0-Jq for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.199] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Eadtn-0001fR-Pt for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1276293wri for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:45:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=o479KLgoYEuxFZRkBlrwcZ/V1yfTe/uFVoUy/kN9C96CHIEirB3S+a1Zd1g3BcBaE+7F3jvPmqHFM9H9ySyTLZoguGO4e0dqWJtnjkiKcpBjxhVgETUD8OX1qG6uNQNz0CUTx6PSH7opVbZL9mApHrE59Wjccw/Lgx9al5qLNnA= Original-Received: by 10.65.159.9 with SMTP id l9mr2771686qbo; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:45:18 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?129.215.174.81? ( [129.215.174.81]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id f16sm255012qba.2005.11.11.10.45.17; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:45:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Original-To: Drew Adams X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:30995 Archived-At: Hi Drew, thanks for your detailed explanations. Icicles is very useful indeed. Too bad the package installs stuff right upon loading (and actually activates the mode as well!), which it shouldn't do... I'll look more into configuration things later. For now, I'll try to find a predicate that reliably determines a list of major modes. That isn't trivial, as the ongoing discussion shows. In particular when only autoload information is available, it seems like it's pretty much impossible. This is sad, because a novice user would certainly be interested in a list of installed major modes. - D