From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: hork point in ~/.emacs: -Q and --debug outputs in terminal & *Messages* Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:02:39 -0400 Message-ID: <25d1778e-99c9-4d8e-faa2-c89b8e261ce8@mousecar.com> References: <8463a064-a5b3-23c6-1589-a6cc5f899b95@mousecar.com> <83o8mvyqeg.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7snymee.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: gebser@mousecar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23985"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 15:03:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBe2n-00068w-VV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:03:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49364 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBe2n-0005Hg-1z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBe1k-0004vF-1T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:02:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194]:37965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBe1h-0000Nz-T2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 09:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.17] ([96.27.75.237]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus004 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M6V2j-1kDb2E3z0z-006zhk for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:02:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83h7snymee.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wNHQ2gIAFGkWcjfmzweq20PnC0T9+/jxfXjgmPIRdSzKb/5c1n2 kB4o/OKClo1ZMCS2hYrT0a2TSQZSsataye1IX8zJ/5txvA9RWf+VEwS3qPGHLZUoo3H457C UyJJBDKmHHUTeBLeWIRRWFPLwlC7nDr2Z5ZzGqC/6Iff7m4lOSRqA26CiYFzxWJ3qjIahPg X9j1wVFvI30MAwfliWjZg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ekhtw0cb4Mg=:3o3oUL4F9HFfwGRbdACrod x7BoLLrFKZieOFBcsdlRPqcjA3hUoMFvOAohH07hU3A0HtloiENPTDujH8goD/7WbV4QNtTIJ 8c0+TsSjmyk80hhIFtY2/mhYJrEZE5iXLRO+2ijuZIRfmFYK+RndIdSz/FMuLG82AJ/rvTUNx OC3pHeiMN9+sM7mS3olYtKHOGSxg/3tIkQLqnRbHBDGpgcFecwE6YOFttW7mbCtWiSktDZVsz uuvWlSvA5rh07opiXwE3PPUY8+9MZN8FK34qIRP6ayWUJokInxlfG1hpeJEKPBboHbHNzp54x LQidxGOcks2dxKPrBtVZClTaHEpj/2OUJTbof6v0tEoHOvNmKU0tpn3S7DFoeb52NOjGEO7BW p8E2agM5OLyJbH1RvkdnbN1arLkOv6UbfWdcwiYiUMAxOkfZRxzzMAVJV+XYijnaBljLTaRuJ 5+UWRP288FmDtBcsN2SOeAI5NK6W8SOeJ8XQsxpYpuoN+cxy9M7IULI66CxZk6dlsbozWqVAi tbwewM+9UQC0iZvlXv6A5EZmQ9Y4AZ+nsB77bTm2yXhsy1wtkziT9SE9cxfdWhJHyju76IKVT 9LEp9MRF6xAui/ACuFaioPjfujGa+tRNA3R5T/AbIwXbBYru8iijIG4f0YEVagakFxF84crRP scZPjtC3RPh3znoTirGcFRW7xPxNweyFUqFlq9A/MibDGt+1IhXeKwIQxMiWcd8HU3RC2Zy1N Y+WO2hZ1bhQlN3qgrkaIGbODL/wpgTvy+oQdoEJJc1W8srs/6oJ2mOiieJdnHWPk+1oRHs4y Received-SPF: none client-ip=74.208.4.194; envelope-from=gebser@mousecar.com; helo=mout.perfora.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/28 08:26:23 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -26 X-Spam_score: -2.7 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.809, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123828 Archived-At: On 8/28/20 8:39 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: ken >> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 08:08:43 -0400 >> >>>> Loading loadup.el (source)... >>>> dump mode: nil >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> This indicates that Emacs cannot find the emacs.pdmp file. You should >>> fix this problem before you continue investigating any further >>> problems, because when Emacs doesn't find its dump file, all kinds of >>> weird problems can happen. So everything you said until now is more >>> or less unimportant, until you resolve the problem with the emacs.pdmp >>> file. >> Thanks, but I know nothing at all about this file, never heard of it.  >> Looking for it: >> >> "locate emacs.pdmp" returns nothing. >> >> "rpm -ql emacs|grep emacs.pdmp" returns nothing. >> >> So it appears I don't have it and never did. > Very strange. Once Emacs starts, if you type > > M-x report-emacs-bug RET > > what do you see in the buffer that Emacs pops? Please post all of its > contents. To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.1; pdmp --text follows this line-- In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.22, cairo version 1.16.0)  of 2020-08-28 built on nv Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000 System Description: openSUSE Tumbleweed Recent messages: Loading /home/aaa/.emacs...done Mark saved where search started End of buffer Mark saved where search started [2 times] Mark set [2 times] Quit Mark saved where search started Mark set [3 times] Saving file /home/aaa/.emacs... 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