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[2003:df:71d:d6df:9ce2:47e2:d398:a4e7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2-20020a170906218200b007be886f0db5sm5051258eju.209.2022.12.04.03.55.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 04 Dec 2022 03:55:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok In-Reply-To: Msg <5h9uQSeZVWQNo6OeB1lac6mQnYqWfJf2IWjomv-R470AYZXCp1XTXDqml7feE3C8NqCG-kmA46BveaNQlAuNnyLRednceriPZ1PymtdU3wc=@protonmail.com> of 2022-12-03 18:43:40 +0000 from heimeborgia@protonmail.com X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-pc-linux) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::533; envelope-from=rainer.woitok@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x533.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.258, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141344 Archived-At: Heime, On Saturday, 2022-12-03 18:43:40 +0000, you wrote: > ... > The problem with Unsolicited Advice is that it is customarily useless. Most probably this is as well an "Unsolicited Advice" according to your above definition. But anyway: > ... > Using Emacs is like working on ice. It is extremely dangerous. According to my _personal_ experience it's not more dangerous than driv- ing a car. Your milage may vary. But in any case you are not at all required to use an editor you classify as dangerous. There are plenty of others around. I personally would never drive a Porsche, because I simply do not want to drive that fast, thus making the Porsches's horse- powers a total waste ... And to stretch this example just a bit more: you do not learn driving a car by perpetually asking questions, you learn it by supervised doing. Here the supervision is necessary due to the real danger of driving on public roads. But making blunders using Emacs is not dangerous at all, provided you don't try something out using valuable data. Use a backup copy, a test file or the "*scratch*" buffer to try your ideas. But in any case remember what the acronym "RTFM" means before you send occa- sionally very imprecise questions, assumptions or allegations to hun- dreds of mailboxes. Get yourself acquainted with Emacs' documentation (it isn't that bad after a while, or at least I've seen plenty of worse product manuals). Sincerely, Rainer