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[2003:df:703:4b50:6be3:7d01:5c85:6d14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k26-20020a17090632da00b0078082f95e5csm1137383ejk.204.2022.10.14.01.47.05 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 14 Oct 2022 01:47:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok In-Reply-To: Msg of 2022-10-13 18:41:33 +0200 from dimech@gmx.com X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-pc-linux) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52e; envelope-from=rainer.woitok@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -32 X-Spam_score: -3.3 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139927 Archived-At: Christopher, On Thursday, 2022-10-13 18:41:33 +0200, you wrote: > ... > Keeping in mind that the x-resource database can be modified by > programs the user does not fully have control of, I resist the > school of thought that says that one should obey the x-resource > database whatever they are. Using the x-resource database in > emacs blindly in unwise. According to this locic it's absolutely unwise to run ANY programme not written by yourself under your userid on ANY operating system not writ- ten by yourself, because doing so could modify or destroy ANY file in your home directory! After all the OPs problem arose from Trisquel (of all things!) providing unwise (according to the OP) defaults and the OP not willing to read the documentation or to _REALLY_ follow the advise received on this list! Sincerely, Rainer PS: This is _definitely_ my last contribution to this thread.