How do I enter a 'œ'?

How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Alan Schmitt]

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Hello,

My keyboard layout lets me input the 'œ' character directly, but it does
not work with emacs. Starting a fresh (-Q) instance, and doing "C-h k œ"
gives me:


C-@ runs the command set-mark-command, which is an interactive
compiled Lisp function in `simple.el'.

It is bound to C-@, C-SPC.


Why is emacs interpreting that keystroke as C-@?

Thanks,

Alan

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Re: How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Alan Schmitt]

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On 2014-09-02 11:36, Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:

> Why is emacs interpreting that keystroke as C-@?

I found the issue, and it is not emacs. As a mea culpa, here is the
source of the bug.

A long time ago, I experimented with system level key bindings for Cocoa
applications (I'm using OS X, see
http://brettterpstra.com/2014/08/20/keybindings-that-everyone-should-have/
for a recent description of such bindings). In my configuration file,
I had this:

  "~o" = (moveToEndOfParagraph:, insertNewline:);

which means "when Alt and o are pressed together, insert a line after
the current paragraph". And the letter I wanted to input (œ) was done so
using Alt and o. The system intercepted this key combination, and
replaced it with a sequence of events that resulted in C-@ being
received by emacs.

Sorry for the noise,

Alan

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Re: How do I enter a 'oe'?

[Rusi]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:45:17 PM UTC+5:30, David Hume wrote:
> Alan Schmitt writes:

> in the subject line  How do I enter a 'oe'?

> Well one way is ctrl-x 8 return 0153

> oe

This can be done in or out of emacs.
I prefer the 'below-emacs-level' (when it works)
On linux one needs to set a compose key and then know
(the few) elements of
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable
that one most needs.

Dunno about mac. There must be something similar¹

¹ For some strange reason this ¹ does not work in emacs
At the bash prompt Compose+s+1 works 
oe is just Compose+o+e (in sequence) and it works in and out of emacs

Re: How do I enter a 'oe'?

[Rusi]

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 8:31:10 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi wrote:

> ¹ For some strange reason this ¹ does not work in emacs
> At the bash prompt Compose+s+1 works 
> oe is just Compose+o+e (in sequence) and it works in and out of emacs

Ach!
That was not oe it was œ

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Re: How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Gian Uberto Lauri]

 > Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:
 > 
 > in the subject line  How do I enter a 'œ'?
 > 

Excuse my ignorance, which language this ligature belongs to?

Maybe setting the input method (M-x set-input-method) to that language
may help, i.e. using german-postfix as input method allows writing ß
by pressing s and then z (an help is displayed in the message line),
with spanish-postfix ¡ is made pressing ! and then /.

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Re: How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Alan Schmitt]

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On 2014-09-03 08:57, "Gian Uberto Lauri" <saint@eng.it> writes:

>  > Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> writes:
>  > 
>  > in the subject line  How do I enter a 'œ'?
>  > 
>
> Excuse my ignorance, which language this ligature belongs to?

French.

> Maybe setting the input method (M-x set-input-method) to that language
> may help, i.e. using german-postfix as input method allows writing ß
> by pressing s and then z (an help is displayed in the message line),
> with spanish-postfix ¡ is made pressing ! and then /.

The question was: the keyboard is sending this letter, why isn't emacs
displaying it? And the answer was: emacs actually did not get the
letter, there was another system-level process that was intercepting
it. Removing that process fixed the issue.

Alan

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Re: How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Gian Uberto Lauri]

Alan Schmitt writes:
 > On 2014-09-03 08:57, "Gian Uberto Lauri" <saint@eng.it> writes:
 > 
 > > Excuse my ignorance, which language this ligature belongs to?
 > 
 > French.

Thanks!

 > The question was: the keyboard is sending this letter, why isn't emacs
 > displaying it? And the answer was: emacs actually did not get the
 > letter, there was another system-level process that was intercepting
 > it. Removing that process fixed the issue.

Glad to hear that your problem is gone.

Anyway, as an emergency tool, the input method "french-postfix" allows
to enter œ by typing o and then /.

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Re: How do I enter a 'œ'?

[Marcin Borkowski]

Dnia 2014-09-02, o godz. 11:36:31
Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org> napisał(a):

> Hello,
> 
> My keyboard layout lets me input the 'œ' character directly, but it
> does not work with emacs. Starting a fresh (-Q) instance, and doing
> "C-h k œ" gives me:

Just for the record, probably the coolest trick to do this:

M-x set-input-method TeX RET
\ o e

If you know even a small bit of LaTeX, playing with the TeX input
method is quite fun - if I want to have some arrows, or ≠, or ⊂, or ∈,
or ∫, or ⊆, or ♣ etc., it is easiest for me to hit C-\ - I have TeX
input method as the default - and type the (La)TeX command.  Then I
disable the input method with another C-\ (it can be annoying, too!),
and continue.  (This input method also works with accented letters and
who knows what else!)

Best,

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Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University