From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Milan Glacier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: package for Email Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:48:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20230120064859.5dfzvus7ilzrqu5r@zoho.com> References: <87mt6fxoak.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86mt6e4nuk.fsf@eduroam-193-157-225-240.wlan.uio.no> <874jsm5we5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6875"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20220429 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eric S Fraga Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 20 07:49:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pIlDk-0001ao-Ps for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 07:49:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIlDD-00040V-Oa; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:49:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIlD3-000400-Mn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:49:10 -0500 Original-Received: from sender3-op-o18.zoho.com ([136.143.184.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pIlD1-0002Dt-G6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:49:09 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1674197343; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=kdqtR6wDRy4xc+AjrTJDIDVZlCmtAW9rJBGOda3lKTc0MRW5zWE0NRLia8VQHSC+IjvOLUxH9szCfWY/k7i9oaZFG3B0CeNLGcqvjnHt7YYSDHnlUweFgEkHti9o8uTb0QQy77CSZShT0klNoy3Riun86P9Uva/JFiturzzJPvM= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1674197343; h=Content-Type:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=vj32BJIv5V5FebPzk0jB0okhmOrYfOVNkLsVf/WznAA=; b=DTCaJKE1vKNTUhzRWa8M5E88DzCzRw01VhXdmxRAZcBjyrj3EJh+5IOAHgsFSpN6GfnSVMhq+/8FAVChQ5AKrw1eEt4dCQh6EbK9vss+Gi5oGTAAMJeIX58VzxUabsQyJ6tX7um0/QbCwZ+wAHC0edxOAz0QUE9XPWgvJUYY0tc= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=milanglacier.com; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=news@milanglacier.com; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1674197343; s=zoho; d=milanglacier.com; i=news@milanglacier.com; h=Date:Date:From:From:To:To:Cc:Cc:Subject:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Reply-To; bh=vj32BJIv5V5FebPzk0jB0okhmOrYfOVNkLsVf/WznAA=; b=hq8rITMKnCfcdfJuyS7vKu0ummMusPh9CqDlnoTgY0JtBj0EKQHtVs6GANyBw3gC 1o2BnNQR+pHVdJ/q/45yGlIRkBgfSWFlhrzTENI8qD65U9VcPnOgqnC7vcHd6MbzYuF CEfJXCmYvruvTGoygekbBJ48fAuXj6T8ar0L5N1k= Original-Received: from localhost (c-69-137-42-77.hsd1.md.comcast.net [69.137.42.77]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1674197341033620.3751930176694; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:49:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874jsm5we5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.184.18; envelope-from=news@milanglacier.com; helo=sender3-op-o18.zoho.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142444 Archived-At: On 01/19/23 16:20, Eric S Fraga wrote: >On Thursday, 19 Jan 2023 at 15:10, Martin Steffen wrote: >> I agree (but qualified). I used RMAIL when I started with emacs (long >> time ago, and I think I used other emacs email software), gnus is way >> more versatile. One thing that may speak against it is it can be >> complex. > >+1 having gone from RMAIL to VM to wl to gnus (with mutt somewhere in >the middle). > >> Actually, I started having troubles locally, after my organization did >> no longer supported IMAP properly (which as a consequence mean, all >> email clients/user programs work excellently as long as they are called >> outlook). > >I've had the same problem including 2FA introduced two years ago. I'm >using davmail as an intermediary to ensure I can keep using gnus. Works >well. Have a try on Davmail? Davmail works as a mediator (an local IMAP server) that exchanges with remote server and then forward to your MUA. And it supports at least 2FA for office365 email accounts.