From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does Richard M. Stallman still scrutinize and develop the codes of Emacs now? Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:03:00 +0200 Message-ID: <20210822070300.GA1597@tuxteam.de> References: <83sfzb9nx8.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnon9hvm.fsf@iki.fi> <87im06ri56.fsf@zoho.eu> <86sfz2e9mo.fsf@protonmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21910"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Wayne Harris , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Jude DaShiell Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 22 09:03:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mHhW9-0005Rj-HY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:03:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37456 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHhW8-0004rw-2G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 03:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56906) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHhVm-0004rk-2n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 03:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:59310) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mHhVf-0005xq-OR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 03:03:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:Date; bh=au2sJNlG0s9w/boxlhwshEKdrbjaTWOe2QreHrt9B1k=; b=bufA3WVGBKch6G2e5ePRQOShLwbBB+fC9RCYVMFd4shxlj1vnvlCDWtzsbYMdFvP2zIFOsA1kLmItTyWq/bl6BsT1IzcoMucX4ZKk3na9UXW1aS9xrY6igjedszzEaP5uvqKpJuLScSXUbmGINSFHKuMywLuxx9jLoUHURcMpCkmUL1y4FUZhQ18k4xhwWy9HVBwYQ/ssq3jOjV1bWN8xKPMDdTfYqKdcU8zuiAJ/GtyYxbvYSYchwFeZnO/cCMjBfZoK6UFTmwAnAKPyzLuxBJRudKHOEVOLJrNREnl4PN0D3qYlSI/Zq1y+UmVmICa4X0pmp5CVaxVy7qzS3ydpg==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1mHhVU-0000ZY-T5; Sun, 22 Aug 2021 09:03:00 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132681 Archived-At: --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 08:53:14PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Last I read on an article comparing emacs and vim, Stephen Monier had the > emacs lead passed to him by Richard Stallman and the fact that emacs has a > line of succession made it different from vim in that vim had no clear > line of succession. I wonder what article that is. Vim is alive and well, and still maintained by Bram Moolenaar (last sign of life I could gather with a quick Internet search 2020-11-11 [1]). Now Vim is by far not as active and lively as Emacs is, but "no clear line of succession" smells of over-simplification to me. There are forks of vim (e.g. NeoVim), but hey, there have been important forks of Emacs too (LucidEmacs/XEmacs). I'm not the one to decide whether such a fork is a good thing or not, but once the fork is there, it's a wonderful chance to learn from each other. And free software makes exactly this possible. So tell your article authors they should do better research :-) Cheers - t --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAmEh9qQACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYIgACfaoB9RDwxKwGs5+X1/G/CkTmF DKkAniRJMmK9quNztZtShM8fWafyXZwD =Zfrl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--