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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Appending lists
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:18:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210615091834.GB24886@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2bby1kr.fsf@zoho.eu>

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 10:27:48AM +0200, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote:
> > Also check out `nconc'
> >
> > (nconc '(1 2 3) '(4 5) '(6)) ; (1 2 3 4 5 6) - if this works for you, use it
> > (nconc '(1 2 3) '(4 5)   6 ) ; (1 2 3 4 5 . 6) - see, last "list" isn't a list!
> >
> > There was a trick with nconc, you could reverse a list in
> > constant time, right? I think that was it but that's all
> > I remember.
> 
> Probably that wasn't `nconc' but `nreverse', I think!
> 
>   (nreverse '(flip six three hole)) ; (hole three six flip)
> 
> Yeah, and it didn't take very long either...
> 
> Here it says
> 
>   Don't use nreverse on quoted list literals; it is undefined
>   behavior and may behave in surprising ways, since it is
>   de facto self-modifying code. [1]

Thing is, '(flip six three hole) is a "constant". It is known
at compile time. The compiler takes its freedom to assume
that it won't be changed. It even might end up in a chunk
of read-only memory if/when the code makes it to a dumped
image. Good luck flipping pointers in cons cells in read-only
memory :)

I'd go even further with the warning: when using nreverse
(and friends), make sure there are no other users of (part
of) your data or be prepared for fun surprises:.

  setq thing (copy-sequence '(one two three four five six)))
  (setq thang (cddr thing))
  
  thang
  => (three four five six)
  
  (nreverse thing)
  => (six five four three two one)
  
  thing
  => (one)
  ; the above isn't the surprise I was after, just a reminder to do
  ; (setq thing (nreverse thing)) -- nreverse won't change your variable
  ; in-place! The result seems weird, but do your box-and-pointer
  ; homework, and you'll get it.
  
  thang
  => (three two one)
  ; now this is what I was after. Who the heck "changed my variable!?"
  ; Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?


Hours of fun. Especially when debugging some more involved code :)

Cheers
 - t

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-14 16:36 Appending lists Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-14 16:40 ` henri-biard
2021-06-14 18:21   ` Alexandr Vityazev
2021-06-15  0:46     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-15  8:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-15  9:18         ` tomas [this message]
2021-06-16  1:11           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16  7:28             ` tomas
2021-06-16  9:13               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16  9:32                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 10:55                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 16:44                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 18:00                       ` Using Emacs for business Jean Louis
2021-06-16 22:59                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:39                           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-17  0:16                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:09                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06  3:22                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-06 20:23                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-06 20:41                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-07  0:18                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16  9:19               ` Appending lists Jean Louis
2021-06-16  9:35                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 10:57                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 16:55                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 11:16                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-16 11:30                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 11:54                     ` tomas
2021-06-16 17:31                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 23:13                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:41                           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 13:01                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-16 16:59                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 17:36                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 18:54                         ` tomas
2021-06-16 21:24                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-06-16 23:25                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:16                               ` tomas
2021-06-17  7:14                             ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:24                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:19                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 11:49                   ` [OT] Underground (was: Appending lists) tomas
2021-06-19  0:10                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 16:54                 ` Appending lists Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 18:49                   ` tomas
2021-06-16 21:40                     ` Jean Louis
2021-06-16 22:35                       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:02                         ` Jean Louis
2021-06-17  0:00                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:44                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:20                           ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:39                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 23:31                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 14:22               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 15:11                 ` tomas
2021-06-16 15:31                   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 15:48                     ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:04                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  2:41                       ` [OFFTOPIC] " Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  6:09                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-17  6:29                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-17 23:53                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-18 14:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-19  0:04                                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  1:20                                   ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-06-19  2:18                                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  2:43                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-21 15:07                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-17  7:51                         ` tomas
2021-06-17  7:50                       ` tomas
2021-06-18 23:47                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  2:35                           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  6:52                             ` tomas
2021-06-16 23:03                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 16:42               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 16:55                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-16 17:06                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-16 17:54                     ` Drew Adams
2021-06-16 23:49                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17  7:54                         ` tomas
2021-06-17 12:41                           ` [OFFTOPIC] " Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-17 14:19                             ` tomas
2021-06-18 23:55                           ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-06-17  3:18 Drew Adams
2021-06-17  7:48 ` tomas
2021-06-18 23:38   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-18 23:50   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-19  6:57     ` tomas
2021-06-19 21:31       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-14 16:44 Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-15  0:56 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-15  1:47   ` henri-biard
2021-06-15  7:09     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-14 16:24 Pierpaolo Bernardi
2021-06-14 16:32 ` henri-biard
2021-06-14 16:08 henri-biard

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