From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: make a drawing with Emacs Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 10:58:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20200901085846.GE4108@tuxteam.de> References: <87imcz4ish.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <20200831073639.GA18053@tuxteam.de> <878sdu36fg.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <87a6ya1qs4.fsf@ebih.ebihd> <874kohzykv.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14340"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 01 10:59:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kD28V-0003aX-7m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 10:59:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50912 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD28U-0001GK-A7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 04:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD289-0001GE-V7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 04:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:59417) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kD287-0004Lu-NV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 04:59:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=mail; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=PbwBNVkN0czsBla9fdm2XO/h+AYSWBcGvw5WL/KQJgk=; b=lrI7eByIy1ro9YRrOF/fmZw+OVk/S6Mh1p4yApT6nZV0xu0BwenRFX49boVTeU2sq2zzXsQbtSs3uCKjUE3kNmRNQ7P+41X4XOe/IQOk2tYgoMi7peoWokhD3K7FpVFRYLCpqbv81Z80We1mGZtBbGbAgARz8RDagnQVqlYjKJTweM2weUmEs03iu0l2CVyeNX7PDRXbq/Qlfm8aDwQCyNE8fhHSiQTgcgFdHul/iwFBimBsS7xmBoF9U27ynAGLw/M3SL2/1+i+SZLVHp934fPe4LNLNyI6/q6PYTY8khNv3a7ZEGH10W0k1SoyP5iSgAOeD12rjbtPVYNFGJwq7g==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1kD280-0001S1-Af for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2020 10:58:56 +0200 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874kohzykv.fsf@ebih.ebihd> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=5.199.139.25; envelope-from=tomas@tuxteam.de; helo=mail.tuxteam.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/01 04:18:10 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123888 Archived-At: --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 10:32:48AM +0200, Emanuel Berg via Users list for t= he GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Yuri Khan wrote: >=20 > >> I want to write code (data) and then have it > >> translate into a drawing. See the original post. > >> So no GUI, no actual "drawing". CAD doesn't sound > >> like that, but maybe I'm wrong? > > > > Hm, why not just write SVG? >=20 > I think SVG seems like a really good alternative. > I can't find a complete syntax reference tho. This is > the best page I found so far: >=20 > https://flaviocopes.com/svg/ Straight from the Horse's Mouth: https://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/ W3.org is the keeper of SVG. They have a ton of other resources on it. What I don't like about SVG: - it's XML: XML is gross. - It's not XML: there's a whole lot of sublanguage hidden in the attribute strings which escapes the "XML lens". This is even grosser. But it's a nice output format, which is not only vector, but can be extended (e.g. sub-elements can be URL links and such things). It can be married to CSS. So that part is nice. What I don't like about SVG in Emacs: for display, it is "flattened" to a "dead image", so the nifty and dynamical things get lost. But hey. Set up a crowdfunding and give me two years (or give Stefan a quarter of a year ;-) So much for SVG :-) Cheers - t --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAl9ODUYACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZAlwCfQ/It2MZAo9P+hqSvxuRvxpqF eQUAnj7Aj07NPGMNt56htVkTB2bRRaMS =XQuA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5oH/S/bF6lOfqCQb--