From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 23:17:21 +0200 Message-ID: <20190515211721.jex4ztglqhwlwsns@Ergus> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> <20190515201531.ikntmimdoa55m5sk@Ergus> <92653e77-0109-8d8e-429e-62fbb92bfc33@yandex.ru> <20190515205734.jrjolepvnrtpxexj@Ergus> <814b9f79-5c10-0877-df1f-6c766432bb3e@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="1766"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 23:17:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR1Hg-0000Fe-R5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 23:17:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR1Hf-0002eh-L0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:17:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR1HJ-0002cx-1L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR1HI-0001aa-7B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic306-21.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.176.207]:42238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR1HI-0001YE-1c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:17:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1557955050; bh=eCOC3AZK5/hI9tWiVWrYOxgILh0YIF7CFEtJuhrEbe4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=PvVQdBDsKZ1WTNZTZswWNMo211w7sPbjvcm/DJedlKbXwRNVi/LwKwNl57Bh3CBLdwyZYq4d6MMePr+3RVnNCrgQxOgWwBygUcXyC9mPS+Lw7RR0p6UOInrcpoOAqjlDwkVoI+5F++KSmXiBbhziEZxhwbT4p2hP4z2/1Iqw6u5M8MlyjUi2x3UYUSZgiIxqqUQcS22akFuKwZXPd7LpZ6sDy4t+tO1CwO4fU2ikC7EQkLWvMCekIA33++sfpGkpKAZXzxufjtDOfUjsOLUaY0MWbfVrmNZ+7ZYtXA0aAsIxTYQzm088VyTnR8ppbYmkBT2iQnVIv2JQPEEpk5wAcA== X-YMail-OSG: ZXBBJicVM1mP_PNLHWtyzjf.I7JOvfOosjkDDMRy3nqrP.93CjdTkjP0fhFSEJZ 0rFHKGpc649EUaBURNzO30GFnnYNFplozTxETUwzB6ic42HIeLfeAOcGBXUTFLJ_Fwa1pfFoEWym 29sLxMulr_w824G_KbmFkf.FXgBQ57G.SYjve9nEtoYakoxFDyk.bLllxLpfb.7bXzRuCwsrlg00 ymgBbZDPHHmPqfAfldDT.nAsCesVh4AtvOhSkocnfDfPmnbBMtCyHidMCgZzngIQ5WDji9tmh58V qAZM__a8Xn2RgpPqpRJZG_DWfZTIEq1Ypq3G1HErjUj1DCt9bM0sa7pY2eQRtvSRP_iQuV5eev_b D7WbzeZ81aTf8OgaN56q4EpNq2QYZtFYvQis5Xu.6XJ1IO.1a2TEwFclaYwFTP2jRGNZTs9zs26C WpIxb6_1pxZgMY9MjieWV.1sZZlcyaANpgW4CStPTsHCz1cSi1sUA.Deba6JuoGMgSYNUqAKVf_a vWPKOvxdcRqwvShiXVB4xcpFtkbhg8_6RfpNpDhDEbpu.5BI0FFQpZ23KKe5eilxrSOMIi0q6Lev 9o3EquDYbPT6smFgF01wJlG0wYHQ6p5E.6XGHepAWdxAgaC_cKP4R2pN3AmJbe1kFZRWLfQuqWBO Fzzx4pr.RtyKsB0bCr7MbL7s2gf_0PkOZ4JejwBqazPB9Lx.q5q8saD_AcMFLrQKUNQ9187.9HqC Bhr_e1.Iia6ioLg4G2FTr1Y1Ycdoygjg0mENZU6RZ1YDmQioF.N76q9V1M3ENbN_FCoSg0hLt8jK MdCYoqyv3xJM2orwePd_icfJpyRAVSGHkGT9nZ6qay Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 May 2019 21:17:30 +0000 Original-Received: from 2.152.205.184.dyn.user.ono.com (EHLO Ergus) ([2.152.205.184]) by smtp403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8098590cc2b8a7920c201c162ac01649; Wed, 15 May 2019 21:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <814b9f79-5c10-0877-df1f-6c766432bb3e@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 77.238.176.207 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120427 Archived-At: On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 12:00:32AM +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >On 15.05.2019 23:57, Ergus wrote: >>I know, but the problem is something I can even fix, but if there is not >>agreement about how to fix it, or even if it should be changed, so it >>will be just a bug more but like whole-line-or-region behavior, initial >>script for new users, better defaults, indent-with-tabs align with >>spaces, the problem is really there, the attitude about core changes. > >What are you trying to accomplish with this email? That there are many pending bugs already to add one more for something that others consider a feature and don't want to be change.