From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ergus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 22:15:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20190515201531.ikntmimdoa55m5sk@Ergus> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="31399"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 22:22:39 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0QA-000833-GB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 22:22:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41988 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0Q9-0002yU-H7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45350) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0JQ-00062h-VY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0JQ-00085B-4X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:15:40 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic307-54.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([87.248.110.31]:42390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hR0JP-00083P-KO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:15:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aol.com; s=a2048; t=1557951337; bh=BDb/2CL8Lziq7wTTrH5MAou2IPUXwL0uo7SnVeu2QJ8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=RXRHY8UqauPqdts+tdFAcgXWeL7xh/a7vWQILK3L4/drLDx8EMQLCM+IItd91u6OaaS0cVPDZdmDQs3GAWnyaufQJliWV7VrRieoddvkIWT1FMcyGprFWrgQrGrvR2HHxsGBqRICE8GP2ZO4cUO871F2KdxGk/Tp10T2nhXvWYGwGJMOZsDKln6z5VGxmxWImZYIh7Qb1Ns3fJIwYmjQc3gYD0nIRXdULPeSBq3yC8+LEoVgiZRD4oAxGam5R1UgJiiAlLBcpWhxpzltZ4EksRk5qGQIFkq0mDjumerIGwK9crLi6+Pfq7jjuIf9r9GgCDfQ8YhpoCG2tzLyqSZRFA== X-YMail-OSG: 7z6Rf6UVM1lUtan__mYZuhhAocG1V_Ixs8J8buvkj53upZu2ZJQ2gV_pmwKiHE9 CFN8ELgtUMkEUQBA8q7svsEXjRAWU7s7D7ZiaHOH9E_SNKEUvPF81xuf_ACXmar9HtwkMGmYTFhL jlMPs0bsiTd7k47JIrKgSYFBwtMxAInltaafA.48.GmZ7OeIjqiCuciDr32eZzzyXwsTvRX6NLYx lYIVrVcfQakyFjqRDC..epMXVFUDxL4W9SGn6CwBF1sCbzq8ekQPh4LNmjQWVB8QFFJoqf5f7kRQ AcFD1qcBG48TNBuV4RlRKOYYBhJ.sAvauP_ZXPZV7sti66WAcLHIiaXq_PJCiaeTjnaVUoApeT0G BwrdgoVEEN3Mo0X6EOYN62ROIM0bx8rZaiOVEurP3J8RtQDh5l3EvBYVJRbAG6sjFFJKe8n7vzC6 5kgDs8XJQkiDqnvQmDkXWKQEWziWmazcJgsgYgOHPX_9aOe.SmA_mppDp_JcKtIsX39NEkdkWss_ 2jY7hNTOb45pOd3pu00hQ.IAgf8zkgxkEYf27h8HsYzIcu8hlpTSfnD0ElogzBYxYykzBc6lsThA XMSiHJPOvFbDRqA1oYR88DN0R3Hr.C6sW2XEtgaCvFTXyWKo5EvWQlxj.NpJv8qw2ft6wKAK0_jP 8GZLFkYiQFsl2xzgLhiec0gUQcXIWySORkDvoCThrUzOcDn6.uwKyxd9yYeJSIqDfpRasC4foAW_ G5KjQ44TMeHyXDtulWQrMUFYYP49MFNstDic5r_0cuDN5qMw- Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic307.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 May 2019 20:15:37 +0000 Original-Received: from 2.152.205.184.dyn.user.ono.com (EHLO Ergus) ([2.152.205.184]) by smtp404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID cc583ef90a315655044f6986453fa6db; Wed, 15 May 2019 20:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 87.248.110.31 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120419 Archived-At: On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 04:06:42PM +0300, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >On 15.05.2019 2:54, Ergus wrote: >>To mention just one example: It does not make sense that C-c C-c >>comments the current lines in C-mode, but sends the current sexep to >>terminal in other modes, or send the messages in others. > >Indeed. > >Maybe you should submit a bug report about that (or see if one is >already open). > I could report that, I could even try to fix that myself and hope Alan accepts the fix, but the problem is the social attitude about these kind of changes. Sometimes a benevolent dictator (or a less democratic management) is needed to make things work. And I can't pretend to help that direction because I am probably the less experiences and with least contributions to the project.