From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GNU Elpa not reachable (possibly OT) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:07:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20190218214446395437458@bob.proulx.com> References: <874l915ek4.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83sgwljch5.fsf@gnu.org> <20190218170906678696564@bob.proulx.com> <8336okjvn4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="26137"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 19 06:08:05 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gvxdT-0006eH-NY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 06:08:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvxdS-0000gY-E4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvxd6-0000gC-Aq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:07:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvxd4-0008Ka-2b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:07:40 -0500 Original-Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:42150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gvxd3-0008FZ-E6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:07:37 -0500 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF591D4 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:07:22 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572C521244 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:07:22 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3788D2DC7E; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:07:22 -0700 (MST) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8336okjvn4.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 96.88.95.61 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119456 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > The Savannah folks are a different set from the Emacs ELPA folks. > > Although Ian, one of the FSF admins, is subscribed and therefore > > perhaps he might jump in. But talking to the Emacs ELPA folks > > directly would be more direct. I don't know who they are. > > Not sure what you mean. ELPA is hosted on Savannah, it's a Git > repository, and the problem sounds like connectivity problem with > IPv6, so savannah-hackers-public sounds appropriate to me. But the report was about elpa.gnu.org: > > error in process filter: Error retrieving: > > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/archive-contents (error http 400) I see no *.savannah.gnu.org in that URL path. elpa.gnu.org is a separate machine. (I can't log into it. I have no access to it. I have no idea what happens there. I don't know who administers that system. I am pretty sure it is another VM in the FSF hosting because it is on the same subnet. But that is as far I know anything about it.) What is hosted on Savannah is the git repository, which is part of Emacs and that is at one of these paths for git access. git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs.git ssh://git.savannah.gnu.org:/srv/git/emacs.git And the cgit web page of the git source. https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/ And the Savannah project page for Emacs is: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/emacs If it doesn't have savannah.gnu.org or savannah.nongnu.org in the URL then the Savannah Hackers team doesn't have access to it. [[Aside: Additionally for my involvement I also have limited access to lists.gnu.org for mailing list stuff. But that is a separate thing almost entirely from Savannah. Things like the OS on lists.gnu.org and Mailman installation are almost entirely in the control of the FSF admins. (I would get in there and fix Mailman bugs if I could.) I have limited access however so you will see me answering mailing list issues. (And all of the anti-spam cancelbot "listhelper" happens on my own server machines outside of any of the gnu.org systems.) There are a few very specific Savannah web UI actions that will trigger things like new mailing list creation and password reset. About half of the mailing lists were created by web UI button push and the other half were created outside of Savannah. But other than that the mailing lists are almost an entirely different area from Savannah.]] Bob