From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Rmail] Fighting spam Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:42:54 +0200 Organization: GNU's NOT Unix! Message-ID: <201806080442.w584gswK002570@localhost.localdomain> References: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> <20180604111209301834037@bob.proulx.com> <201806050437.w554bQIr018935@localhost.localdomain> <20180605232257069435572@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528432908 17188 195.159.176.226 (8 Jun 2018 04:41:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 04:41:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Rmail on GNU Emacs/27.0.50 (27.0.50) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Bob Proulx Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 08 06:41:43 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fR9Db-0004Nj-PW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:41:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fR9Fi-0001Kr-PO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fR9Ey-0001JY-66 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:43:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fR9Ev-0000R6-5b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:43:08 -0400 Original-Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:43149) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fR9Eu-0000Of-VE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (129.39.136.77.rev.sfr.net [77.136.39.129]) (Authenticated sender: xavier@maillard.im) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45E19100014; Fri, 8 Jun 2018 04:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w584gvhU002571; Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:42:58 +0200 Original-Received: (from xavier@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w584gswK002570; Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:42:54 +0200 In-reply-to: <20180605232257069435572@bob.proulx.com> (message from Bob Proulx on Tue, 5 Jun 2018 23:35:28 -0600) Jabber-ID: xavier@maillard.im X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117030 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 23:35:28 -0600 > From: Bob Proulx > > Xavier Maillard wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > You didn't say how email is getting delivered to your system. > > > > For a couple of years I was geting to my mail through IMAP servers but > > I was not satisfied having my e-mails stored and synced on every devices I was > > using. I have now switched back to POP and a sole copy on 1 computer and only 1. > > I just find IMAP to be quite slow, especially as compared to having > the files locally available and cached in file system buffer cache. True. At the time I was depending on IMAP, I used to install OfflineImap to get it of this problematic. But, in the end, why use IMAP at all ? I'd rather have this right in my local FS and not spread on many unsecured devices (with latest events around privacy, that would not hurt to get better control of that). > > I have defined `rmail-primary-inbox-alist' to '("po:..."). > > > > There is no other tool in the workflow (I got rid of > > fetchmail/getmail, procmail and the like). > > If you do end up with a spam problem in the future you might consider > filtering your email through a spam classification system like > spamassassin or something similar on the way into your mailbox. > Perhaps fetching into a spooling folder and then filtering into a main > folder. Or something similar. But I think rmail by itself is going > to depend upon an external filter for it to at least add headers, just > like most mail readers these days. Right, it needs an external tool so I guess I will have to use getmail + SA for example at some point. That's a pity since, after all, it will just be used to add headers and let Rmail automatically "discard" -ie. dispatch into different files. -- Xavier Maillard e/j:xavier@maillard.im w:www.maillard.im m: 06 52 18 63 43 GPG: 9983 DCA1 1FAC 8DA7 653A F9AA BA49 09B7 8F04 DE1B