From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [Rmail] Fighting spam Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600 Message-ID: <20180604111209301834037@bob.proulx.com> References: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1528132690 5216 195.159.176.226 (4 Jun 2018 17:18:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 17:18:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.0 (2018-05-17) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 04 19:18:06 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fPt7L-0001CK-7E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 19:18:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPt9S-0006y8-BE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:20:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46760) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPt8i-0006tN-MY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:19:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPt8e-000161-CV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:19:28 -0400 Original-Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:57308) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fPt8e-00015g-6B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2018 13:19:24 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B9DC9B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0FC217ED for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 90A272DC75; Mon, 4 Jun 2018 11:19:22 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8736y947rw.fsf@maillard.im> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 96.88.95.61 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116961 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard wrote: > with latest Rmail development, what is the simplest method to protect > myself agaisnt spam ? THere are a few messages that are auto-magicallly > labeled with a =AB spam =BB keyword but I can't find why it happens :) >=20 > I need a way ton instruct this protector with other material to get him > even better. IIRC the Rmail rules are able to classify the reading and display of both non-spam and spam messages but is not a spam classification engine itself. For that you would probably look to using SpamAssassin or another spam classification engine such as BogoFilter or other or some combination of all of the above. I am currently using a pipeline through bogofilter and spamassassin. However even better is to avoid receiving the spam in the first place by using a DNSBL such as the Xen list from Spamhaus. Best is combined arms tactics using a combination of available techniques. You didn't say how email is getting delivered to your system. It would be necessary to know this before being able to suggest something that would fit into that flow. The classic traditional way is through the MTA such as Postfix in which case you can use Procmail to run messages through BogoFilter and SpamAssassin for classification and then use Procmail to file them into appropriate folders. But many (most?) people these days use an IMAP server for email which requires yet different techniques. Bob