From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: info-find-source Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20180113113633.GB19072@tuxteam.de> References: <86shbcdpr5.fsf@zoho.com> <86po6eke67.fsf@zoho.com> <86inc6kbyb.fsf@zoho.com> <867esmk28h.fsf@zoho.com> <20180113074636.GB11417@tuxteam.de> <871siudvrv.fsf@mbork.pl> <83shba183l.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515843318 3956 195.159.176.226 (13 Jan 2018 11:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:35:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 13 12:35:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK5g-0000bt-DQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:35:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59610 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK7g-0002fw-6c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:37:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK75-0002bX-5J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:36:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK72-0007XU-2Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:36:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:48738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK71-0007WU-PV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 06:36:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=20171004; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=F4icVuImXoGVMPAnkeTUwusNIGfkx1mSX/GrC8tniQE=; b=NZqbj4gUYRV2vmGz3108K8WfgW5YaryneESDT8l+9To8NIDheFhEyvZOV8lounswBIk6q3TVWVmDcdD1N1GM3UtCbtuHuZ5YKdjtsoVouwlT7mzyWnliHOPzRjOswQxrNzWWPeaHrUDF+VoSkP+27rmr+V48swrkJX7vI+W6c4KYmADsQQ9t5B+5vO96QH3splWEeCr4mK9oXGjGgZieKRuyD/+yP5zOui3VmY1A2AQuZ6rFbl0LaZ3aoupP7yd8gCz9Ha9V7j/rkbsY5sctT18YgN2e3FMtYefss0lVkGo97oDTgR7Q4ImreBfdzg/NQc6VD098Dv5avjfP5zqw5A==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eaK6z-00054z-MQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:36:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83shba183l.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115689 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:22:22AM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Marcin Borkowski > > Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:10:12 +0100 > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > Perhaps some kind of visual orientation help > > > (akin to some breadcrumbs) might help there? > > > > Info-history-back (bound to `l' by default) anyone? > > And, of course, breadcrumbs are already there. Yes to both. I do use `l' regularly (I'm not the OP, I'm more or less happy with it: for me it beats browser+html most of the time), but I can connect wich Emanuel's sense of "lost in cyberspace". Some additional creative (and non-intrusive) navigation help might make Info more accessible to people. Yes, Eli, "breadcrumbs" are there, as in "where am I, relative to root", but not so much as in "how on Earth I arrived here". The `l' key answers that, but then, you gotta find that first :) Sorry I can't offer a more concrete idea... Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlpZ70EACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbUwwCfXggXXcayx9t4hR4FHob9wLSO KNMAnicuLvSNajTCxokJG0OVIald8jPc =JP05 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----