From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: info-find-source Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:39:51 -0700 Message-ID: <20180112152923748002837@bob.proulx.com> References: <86tvvufeh0.fsf@zoho.com> <86a7xlezm7.fsf@zoho.com> <86shbcdpr5.fsf@zoho.com> <86po6eke67.fsf@zoho.com> <86inc6kbyb.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515796721 21499 195.159.176.226 (12 Jan 2018 22:38:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:38:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 12 23:38:37 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ea7xz-0004ja-0w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 23:38:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44471 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea7zy-0007xw-O1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea7zS-0007xe-Lr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:39:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea7zN-0001US-OA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:39:58 -0500 Original-Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:52628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ea7zN-0001Sv-Hq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:39:53 -0500 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D58615D5 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:39:52 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316482123E for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:39:52 -0700 (MST) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1849B2DC6B; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:39:51 -0700 (MST) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86inc6kbyb.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 96.88.95.61 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115673 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg wrote: > What I can see, info, i.e., the framework, is > just a bunch of sparsely annotated and > highlighted hypertext. What I see looks the same as the web version: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html Except mine is local and therefore always available to me even when I am not connected to a network. And the local version always matches the version of emacs I am using with it. And my local version is inside emacs so uses my preferred fonts and colors. For people who don't use emacs but use vim I recommend using the 'pinfo' browser. It would match their keystroke memory better. > Because I don't spend a lot of time with info, > and isn't active with it myself, I do not > care about the markup. Markup? What markup? All I see is text. It is formated into paragraphs. The most annoying markup is the quoting using characters I don't prefer with the stylized curly quotes. But it's a compromise there for certain because everyone prefers something different there. > As for the interconnectivity, I was never fond > of moving back and forth by hitting any other > buttons than those on my keyboard, which > I don't think need re-wiring for the purpose of > browsing documentation. WAT? I can only hit the buttons on my keyboard. I can't hit buttons that are not on my keyboard. Personally I prefer the emacs movement keys and so I use emacs movement keys when browsing info documenation. And since this is the help-gnu-emacs mailing list I can say that proudly without vim users being unhappy with me. :-) > So to me, I can just as well, or better > actually, access the entire manual of a piece > of software by means of a huge text file. Since it is a multi-function document that is also designed to be printed and viewed as a book then I can't find any complaint with you wanting to browse it all printed out like it was a book. Go for it! > It is more honest. No gleaming links that lures > you into doing something else just because you > can. No new keystrokes to learn and no new > hooks to fill with Elisp. Same old - great - > stuff to use. Oh, so the links to related documenation is like ... *squirrel* :-) Bob