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From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: info-find-source
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:39:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180112152923748002837@bob.proulx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86inc6kbyb.fsf@zoho.com>

Emanuel Berg wrote:
> What I can see, info, i.e., the framework, is
> just a bunch of sparsely annotated and
> highlighted hypertext.

What I see looks the same as the web version:

  https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/index.html

Except mine is local and therefore always available to me even when I
am not connected to a network.  And the local version always matches
the version of emacs I am using with it.  And my local version is
inside emacs so uses my preferred fonts and colors.

For people who don't use emacs but use vim I recommend using the
'pinfo' browser.  It would match their keystroke memory better.

> Because I don't spend a lot of time with info,
> and isn't active with it myself, I do not
> care about the markup.

Markup?  What markup?  All I see is text.  It is formated into
paragraphs.  The most annoying markup is the quoting using characters
I don't prefer with the stylized curly quotes.  But it's a compromise
there for certain because everyone prefers something different there.

> As for the interconnectivity, I was never fond
> of moving back and forth by hitting any other
> buttons than those on my keyboard, which
> I don't think need re-wiring for the purpose of
> browsing documentation.

WAT?  I can only hit the buttons on my keyboard.  I can't hit buttons
that are not on my keyboard.

Personally I prefer the emacs movement keys and so I use emacs
movement keys when browsing info documenation.  And since this is the
help-gnu-emacs mailing list I can say that proudly without vim users
being unhappy with me. :-)

> So to me, I can just as well, or better
> actually, access the entire manual of a piece
> of software by means of a huge text file.

Since it is a multi-function document that is also designed to be
printed and viewed as a book then I can't find any complaint with you
wanting to browse it all printed out like it was a book.

Go for it!

> It is more honest. No gleaming links that lures
> you into doing something else just because you
> can. No new keystrokes to learn and no new
> hooks to fill with Elisp. Same old - great -
> stuff to use.

Oh, so the links to related documenation is like ... *squirrel*
:-)

Bob



  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10  5:51 info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-11  4:49 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found] ` <mailman.7190.1515646194.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-11  5:25   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-11 21:05     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7233.1515704724.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-11 21:55       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 15:43         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-12 17:02           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7274.1515771852.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-12 20:36           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 21:08             ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
     [not found]             ` <mailman.7300.1515791309.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-12 21:24               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 22:39                 ` Bob Proulx [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.7303.1515796800.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  0:54                   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  3:29                     ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7311.1515814177.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  3:55                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13 14:16                         ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.7327.1515852984.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  7:20                           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  7:46                     ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-13  8:10                       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13  8:22                         ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 11:36                           ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-13 11:59                             ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
2018-01-13 12:14                               ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-13 15:33                                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 14:20                         ` info-find-source Kaushal Modi
2018-01-13 15:30                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:31                       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7318.1515831047.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  7:17                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:42                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7430.1516041756.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:38                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13 15:47                     ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-13 16:04                       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 21:33                         ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-14  0:52                           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-14  1:18                             ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-14  6:55                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-14  9:12                             ` info-find-source tomas
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7360.1515891194.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  2:03                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7334.1515859458.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  0:47                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15  0:57                           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:53                             ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.7434.1516042427.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:51                               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:48                           ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7432.1516042138.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:46                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-16 13:45                               ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
2018-01-16 15:28                                 ` info-find-source tomas
2018-01-16 19:59                                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-17  0:13                               ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.7460.1516110343.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-17  2:41                                 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7331.1515858482.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  8:42                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-12 23:57             ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
     [not found] <mailman.7307.1515801433.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  0:43 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <(message>
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     [not found]       ` <Emanuel>
     [not found]         ` <Berg>
     [not found]           ` <on>
     [not found]             ` <Sat>
     [not found]               ` <13>
     [not found]                 ` <Jan>
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     [not found]                     ` <01:43:01>
2018-01-13  3:43   ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
2018-01-13  5:23     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-13 16:31       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-14  7:03         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-16 23:10           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-13 15:50     ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7314.1515821013.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  2:57       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14  7:00         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.7369.1515913231.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  4:17           ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:54             ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]             ` <mailman.7435.1516042498.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:55               ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-16 23:58                 ` info-find-source Robert Thorpe
2018-01-19  6:22                 ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.7609.1516342943.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19  7:12                   ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-19 20:31                     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-19 21:05                       ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.7653.1516395915.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19 22:19                         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-19 23:21                           ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.7656.1516404112.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 19:49                             ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-20 20:18                               ` info-find-source Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <<83bmhos2qd.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 23:50                                 ` info-find-source Drew Adams
2018-01-21  0:04                               ` info-find-source Drew Adams
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.7695.1516493072.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-21 11:49                                 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.7650.1516393881.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-19 20:43                       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-13  5:17   ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7313.1515820700.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-14  2:54     ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 18:52       ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7433.1516042345.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15 19:50         ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.7312.1515815030.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-13  3:57 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14  4:24 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-14 22:30   ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-15  4:33     ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
2018-01-20 17:37       ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-21  6:59         ` info-find-source Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.7682.1516469829.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-20 17:53         ` info-find-source HASM
2018-01-20 18:26           ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
     [not found]     ` <mailman.7401.1515990861.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  7:45       ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
2018-01-15 14:26     ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
2018-01-20 17:00       ` info-find-source Bob Proulx
2018-01-20 17:29         ` info-find-source Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <mailman.7394.1515969041.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-15  4:31     ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.7487.1516147103.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-01-17  6:18 ` info-find-source Emanuel Berg

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