From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: <20171205085318.GA22742@tuxteam.de> References: <87indo7s7o.fsf@mbork.pl> <87d13u7qvo.fsf@mbork.pl> <86a7yydw9n.fsf@zoho.com> <20171204215223.GB1723@tuxteam.de> <86609mduhp.fsf@zoho.com> <20171204221250.GF1723@tuxteam.de> <86o9nddd7i.fsf@zoho.com> <20171205080817.GA21102@tuxteam.de> <86vahlbmh1.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512464038 9334 195.159.176.226 (5 Dec 2017 08:53:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 08:53:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 09:53:54 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8zB-0002FC-Ku for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:53:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47225 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8zI-0002Yo-Sg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:54:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8yl-0002Xo-Jn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:53:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8yi-0007Jz-HM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:53:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.tuxteam.de ([5.199.139.25]:47523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8yi-0007Jc-6r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:53:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuxteam.de; s=20171004; h=From:In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:Date; bh=wPyJcA7QPQGut3mCyQzeMQURMK2RyjXHNOfIRR0fK7A=; b=HWN9Ata8SUspoCvTqnCLPQtE4HV1VnhvOcwWcxJHEHjIyhgyvKYQ8PoYlK9gGBAq7FrUeeeYHpaqqFxBks0aT9zbDArj5ApoIcBBAMxEhu5XzW0UuxNdg6XV/aZmyf2tOLYHg01mL3wRjIyhTccIpsn1D7sncOQiJksDMLUVrk6ctMXG4drxXPfUKT1z40lEfVnzxEYUlk3i9+H9Up4vU+U3qlbNV4YOiG6+sgJbZWmbq2A0x7cFhM5bwZ9RUPzGnbYPWYVGEQ8ZzZrM4DNaTMbOfYMif7OnZdf45DiX1bU7z5FAHOdeHKzTxB4HDl1ZlUfujX/Blao95i3qqQVh/g==; Original-Received: from tomas by mail.tuxteam.de with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1eM8yg-00065d-6b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 09:53:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86vahlbmh1.fsf@zoho.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 5.199.139.25 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115206 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 09:36:10AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > tomàs wrote: > > > Your request is still too unspecific. > > OK, so do you have any suggestions as to how > I can make my request - an example what one can > do with this technology - specific enough? Reflect on our interaction: Q "What is this good for?" A "You can do this, and that" Q "Yes, but what can I do with it?" A "OK, look at this manual and that blog post" Q "Yes, but what can I actually *do* with it?" If you feel you aren't missing anything, perhaps Org isn't for you? > > Note that the HTML page itself is generated > > from an org-mode source (go to the very > > bottom and notice the link "org-mode > > source"). > > OK, well, HTML is so simple I don't see any > reason to generate that, the exception being if > you already have the material in some other > format Comparing the HTML of that page with its Org source I know which alternative I *don't want* to edit. Plus the fact that Org executes the code snippets and inserts their results (text and graphics) for me -- in the Emacs buffer, and in the HTML output (and in the LaTeX output, the PDF output and the LibreOffice output too). Perhaps there's no use for you in it. There are people doing their invoices happily in Postscript. I do prefer LaTeX (and am actually converting to Org at the moment -- a higher level of abstraction, if you wish [1]). Cheers [1] To be more precise: (La)TeX does have \newcommand, thus the basic abstraction mechanism: thus you can choose your level of abstraction there. What Org offers, beyond a nice interface, is a smoother "abstraction protocol". - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlomXn4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kadFgCaAnw7EExVuFl5P2MqjEmTsMb7 xDcAnj6mLSd+kVguBvvKK9WpgAeHJsjG =8p8E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----