From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using "Emacs Configure" **and** modifying .emacs
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:02:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170812080204.GC20873@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bmnlqlic.fsf@zoho.com>
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 09:43:23AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> tomas wrote:
>
> > Some dont want a validation to explode deep
> > whithin the guts of some module loaded by
> > another module, where the user has no clue
> > about what the heck is going on, but next to
> > the place where a variable is being set to
> > a value it's not supposed to have.
> >
> > Sometimes I can sympathize with that :-)
>
> One could also put validation at the beginning
> of the functions that use the value, where it
> (the function) checks its own parameters rather
> than some global loose-cannon variable!
This is waht I meant by "guts": imagine Tramp, which
uses some access method deep in another module, which
then, for the first time, needs the variable. That
happens dynamically, at the moment you try to access
a file dependent on this method, long (perhaps weeks)
after you set the variable. Not very debugging-friendly.
Similarly (just another aspect of the same thing), this
can do away with that pesky "eval-after-load" you'd
need with the setq approach.
> Which is also a much better design this
> specific issue aside...
Hm. I get your point, but I get the opposite point,
too. "Better design" isn't always an absolute.
Cheers
- -- tomás
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-10 13:51 Using "Emacs Configure" **and** modifying .emacs Ronald Fischer
2017-08-10 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-10 16:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 17:24 ` John Ankarström
2017-08-13 20:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 17:32 ` John Ankarström
2017-08-10 16:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-08-10 16:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-11 7:21 ` Ronald Fischer
2017-08-11 13:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-11 14:11 ` Tomas Nordin
[not found] ` <mailman.12937.1502460691.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-11 15:20 ` notbob
2017-08-11 15:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-11 16:54 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-11 19:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-11 19:15 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-12 15:53 ` ken
2017-08-12 16:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 16:24 ` ken
2017-08-13 20:19 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.12941.1502465490.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-11 15:57 ` notbob
2017-08-11 16:37 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.12935.1502459723.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-11 14:09 ` HASM
2017-08-11 15:20 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.12940.1502464872.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-11 18:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-08-11 20:08 ` HASM
2017-08-11 20:29 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-11 20:46 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-11 22:12 ` (1) defcustom :set, (2) similar for defvar Drew Adams
2017-08-12 0:15 ` Using "Emacs Configure" **and** modifying .emacs Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 7:30 ` tomas
2017-08-12 7:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 8:02 ` tomas [this message]
2017-08-12 10:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 10:38 ` Tomas Nordin
2017-08-12 11:38 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 22:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 22:18 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-15 22:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 23:38 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-16 0:09 ` John Mastro
2017-08-16 0:37 ` Robert Thorpe
2017-08-16 1:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-16 0:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 22:25 ` John Mastro
2017-08-15 22:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-16 0:07 ` John Mastro
2017-08-16 0:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 12:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 16:04 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-12 16:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-12 16:04 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-12 0:32 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-14 16:33 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-14 18:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-14 21:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-14 23:17 ` John Mastro
2017-08-15 0:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-08-15 2:20 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.12888.1502380810.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-10 17:47 ` Dan Espen
2017-08-10 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2017-08-10 18:10 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.12897.1502388423.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-10 19:08 ` Dan Espen
2017-08-10 19:14 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.12899.1502392471.21957.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-08-11 12:03 ` Dan Espen
2017-08-11 13:46 ` Emanuel Berg
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