From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Anast Gramm Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs as an IDE Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:45:12 +0200 Message-ID: <20170305164512.eonnfhajuygi7vtn@gmail.com> References: <20170304083457.GA18623@tuxteam.de> <1C90A2C1-2F49-4001-91C9-41A1C951C84C@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488732347 6496 195.159.176.226 (5 Mar 2017 16:45:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 16:45:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: NeoMutt/20161104 (1.7.1) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Francis Belliveau Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 05 17:45:43 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckZHs-0000fW-TP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 17:45:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39532 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckZHy-0004nQ-Tn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:45:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckZHa-0004nL-1r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:45:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckZHZ-0008TD-0S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:45:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]:36799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckZHY-0008T2-Ps for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:45:16 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id u108so101924689wrb.3 for ; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 08:45:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=q2X1NyZ0BAtJagZ1L3JEH+tfJD/nzwDwj9OnFDZ3dNk=; b=R0vOVB09lrFT7lJXlCLEws64rI7CO4zEkSH1amnTpxmPDOnzlkdkTdCPyoF23GcRFt 3Ajolnu8mzgyMMmFzNYBLdOv5VRvBT3qHC3RP707cUQxh2nrBW/fGbPjemOaMiI7vdXJ vXhGprAWagqDooirE42nJ5/hL9Okb8K/VGz++WkoyAOcvte6kvB2x0JVs2Q7zhT0pCLH /oAsoYOYPQqndQeGT3eZvcuvf+z6lG0LJhgCs0tSmsDS4k6mS2R4Xo015I3G/MKhhUe0 nQbvEvc+otbGCsI/KfDwfmOpFsA0zOTcONkpZX3cNB9IhLQFPSHnVL+bll270t3os19r 9axg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=q2X1NyZ0BAtJagZ1L3JEH+tfJD/nzwDwj9OnFDZ3dNk=; b=SbAlXaX/TsGT72zHmTXarr7vrUlDGwQaUDekd5rPtgmAN0E8QAqjRBkLWy4mxbL4KW cndb1VOYSWCc0JvRYzwOeflfZeRNEl1b41irh6KC4Sc/034UdV5usrSjMYM9Xuq3oew+ tceGi5pwHFbmSL/WPYwWOHPuxqeFisSd0g3aXiiJMp8I9wxDUpbkazMBozH5VOHV2blE F+qqpHwS4r87nd3ngm645Jy77EYxALV5gfDd7uotE5Mi6N7sIL0RFGBiR/9aPzq/cVdk hiH1x3EzbLna8hvabJZVpytHNW0QnAZgyiXkdnvPcEnaZc02ZK+AKDUgx+58+7C35Unl 4pug== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mvdY95vhdLmfRJ+K/bbaFgyAsHx7V9Wz3bL/8NNClF7jkj5KvPirR3h5XaScKzQg== X-Received: by 10.223.154.225 with SMTP id a88mr10709541wrc.5.1488732313992; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from gmail.com ([2a02:587:1806:1300:beee:7bff:fe5b:17a8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g6sm11410539wmc.30.2017.03.05.08.45.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Mar 2017 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1C90A2C1-2F49-4001-91C9-41A1C951C84C@comcast.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:112427 Archived-At: Hello, What I've done 3 months ago when I was on your position was the following: I read this http://tuhdo.github.io/ dudes manuals. They are amazing at explaining how stuff works and how to set up a basic customization. Especially this one http://tuhdo.github.io/c-ide.html that also answers a lot of your questions. >From there on I just browse M-x package-list-packages and see stuff that I like and try to implement them in my workflow. 6 months ago I had a .emacs with ~20 lines of lisp, now I have an .org file with my configuration and it's about ~1500 lines. So this thing escalates really quick. Beware not to get lost. Now for the sad part: Java is a high level language and there are awesome IDEs out there for it. My favorite is IntelliJ. Those beasts are simply too much work for an emacs user to replace. As I see it, you're better off using IntelliJ or Eclipse for java development. I think someone should build a complete IDE experience for java development but until then proprietary software is gonna have the lead. P.S. I avoid java just for this reason (I also like C/C++ more)