emacs tshirts

emacs tshirts

[Jai Dayal]

Is there anyway to get emacs tshirts in such a way that FSF will get some
money for it? I see 3rd party tshirts: http://www.zazzle.com/emacs+tshirts
but nothing on shop.fsf.org.

Thanks,
Jai

Re: emacs tshirts

[Emanuel Berg]

Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:

> Is there anyway to get emacs tshirts in such a way
> that FSF will get some money for it? I see 3rd party
> tshirts: http://www.zazzle.com/emacs+tshirts but
> nothing on shop.fsf.org.

I have bicycle repair shop and I thought of putting up
a couple of flags from "the movement" above the
entrance, but I don't know of any logos from the FSF,
Emacs, and Gnus worlds.

The one I know of is the Linux penguin, but after
having had an itchy feeling a couple of years
I ultimately decided I don't like those people (the
system, which is Unix, is another matter).

In the "Free software" sphere the politics is too
boring/fanatical for my taste, but the people are
relaxed and with great skills - as opposed to the
linuxers (or Linux fanbase I should say) where
politics is relaxed ("cheeky") and pragmatic while
nonetheless a lot of rabid screaming and shouting from
people who cannot themselves write even a for loop to
go with the "Triangle" 2009 movie.

This is probably, tho I daren't say, something
thoughtworthy. Besides, that penguin is unsexy - if
so, I want an athlete penguin with eye-piercing...
uhm, eyes.

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: emacs tshirts

[Jai Dayal]

This is a nice looking t-shirt!

http://www.zazzle.com/geeky_emacs_ninja_t_shirt-235022597464706832

I don't care much about the politics and all that, but I do appreciate the
*products*, especially emacs, and that's really what I'd want to support
when buying such a tshirt. I suppose if FSF doesn't sell any, "free
advertising" by me wearing the tshirt never hurt i guess.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
wrote:

> Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Is there anyway to get emacs tshirts in such a way
> > that FSF will get some money for it? I see 3rd party
> > tshirts: http://www.zazzle.com/emacs+tshirts but
> > nothing on shop.fsf.org.
>
> I have bicycle repair shop and I thought of putting up
> a couple of flags from "the movement" above the
> entrance, but I don't know of any logos from the FSF,
> Emacs, and Gnus worlds.
>
> The one I know of is the Linux penguin, but after
> having had an itchy feeling a couple of years
> I ultimately decided I don't like those people (the
> system, which is Unix, is another matter).
>
> In the "Free software" sphere the politics is too
> boring/fanatical for my taste, but the people are
> relaxed and with great skills - as opposed to the
> linuxers (or Linux fanbase I should say) where
> politics is relaxed ("cheeky") and pragmatic while
> nonetheless a lot of rabid screaming and shouting from
> people who cannot themselves write even a for loop to
> go with the "Triangle" 2009 movie.
>
> This is probably, tho I daren't say, something
> thoughtworthy. Besides, that penguin is unsexy - if
> so, I want an athlete penguin with eye-piercing...
> uhm, eyes.
>
> --
> underground experts united
> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
>
>
>

Re: emacs tshirts

[Emanuel Berg]

Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:

> I don't care much about the politics and all that,
> but I do appreciate the *products*, especially
> emacs, and that's really what I'd want to support
> when buying such a tshirt. I suppose if FSF doesn't
> sell any, "free advertising" by me wearing the
> tshirt never hurt i guess.

There are services nowadays to which you submit a PNG
or perhaps a PDF and then you get it on whatever you
want: clothes, pens, coffee cups (especially for the
lamers that do Java), pencil boxes, fake tatoos, you
name it.

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: emacs tshirts

[Kaushal Modi]

I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse drawn on it along with
the monitor and keyboard. Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that
concept and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :)

--
Kaushal Modi
On Sep 27, 2015 7:46 PM, "Emanuel Berg" <embe8573@student.uu.se> wrote:

> Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I don't care much about the politics and all that,
> > but I do appreciate the *products*, especially
> > emacs, and that's really what I'd want to support
> > when buying such a tshirt. I suppose if FSF doesn't
> > sell any, "free advertising" by me wearing the
> > tshirt never hurt i guess.
>
> There are services nowadays to which you submit a PNG
> or perhaps a PDF and then you get it on whatever you
> want: clothes, pens, coffee cups (especially for the
> lamers that do Java), pencil boxes, fake tatoos, you
> name it.
>
> --
> underground experts united
> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
>
>
>

Re: emacs tshirts

[Bob Proulx]

Kaushal Modi wrote:
> I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse drawn on it along with
> the monitor and keyboard. Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that
> concept and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :)

That was pretty much my thought too.  When I heard the discussion
about an emacs T-shirt I thought, "Fun! I want one."  But I don't want
to slam vi/vim.  I respect them and also want emacs to be respected.
You get what you give.  What goes around comes around.  All of that.

Bob

Re: emacs tshirts

[Jai Dayal]

Sure, I didn't mean to imply that any emacs tshirt has to slam vim. I'd
actually just like to buy a tshirt in such a way that the FSF gets the
money, instead of some 3rd party vendor. I guess FSF doesn't have any.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> wrote:

> Kaushal Modi wrote:
> > I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse drawn on it along
> with
> > the monitor and keyboard. Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that
> > concept and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :)
>
> That was pretty much my thought too.  When I heard the discussion
> about an emacs T-shirt I thought, "Fun! I want one."  But I don't want
> to slam vi/vim.  I respect them and also want emacs to be respected.
> You get what you give.  What goes around comes around.  All of that.
>
> Bob
>
>

Re: emacs tshirts

[Emanuel Berg]

Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> writes:

> I'd actually just like to buy a tshirt in such a way
> that the FSF gets the money, instead of some 3rd
> party vendor. I guess FSF doesn't have any.

I once saw a FSF celebrity selling pins with a the GNU
icon and URL. I asked, "If you buy one, are you then
a true follower?" and he said "It is a way of
helping". The pin was one or two euros so I bought one
(back then I could still afford such extravagance).
I guess the movement has a rather bankrupted economy
if measures like that make a difference. Man, and to
think those 90's Linux stock shares are actually ours!

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: emacs tshirts

[Emanuel Berg]

Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> writes:

> I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse

Say WHAT?!

> drawn on it along with the monitor and keyboard.
> Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that concept
> and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :)

Only the really old old-schoolers don't like vi.
Back then, they hadn't seen any of the apocalypse we
now have, so they could afford to put Emacs against
vi. Now, with all the <beep beep beep> around, we
emacsers offer our deepest respect to our colleagues
using and developing vi(m).

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: emacs tshirts

[tomas]

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On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 02:52:09AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I wish the emacs ninja tshirt didn't have that mouse
> 
> Say WHAT?!
> 
> > drawn on it along with the monitor and keyboard.
> > Also, while I don't use vi, I respect that concept
> > and wouldn't say that "I don't like it" :)
> 
> Only the really old old-schoolers don't like vi.
> Back then, they hadn't seen any of the apocalypse we
> now have, so they could afford to put Emacs against
> vi. Now, with all the <beep beep beep> around, we
> emacsers offer our deepest respect to our colleagues
> using and developing vi(m).

Well put.

Once upon a time it was fun and sportsy to pit Emacs against vi (the
generic vi -- that is vim, elvis & co, not (only9 the proprietary AT&T
vi).

At that time I was mostly vi(m) user and Emacs admirer. These days
I'm more of an Emacs user. I even remember of a paintball contest
between Emacsers & VIers (the VIers won, AFAIR).

These days, discussions between <beep> and <beep beep> feel as if
the lives of the participants and their families' depended on the
outcome. And each party seems dead set to stomp out the other
"because we're right, dammit!".

Yep, you're right.

regards
- -- tomás
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Re: emacs tshirts

[Mikhail Skorzhinskiy]

You can try to check this, Jai: http://shop.fsf.org/product/fsf-30-shirt/

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:18 AM, Jai Dayal <dayalsoap@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there anyway to get emacs tshirts in such a way that FSF will get some
> money for it? I see 3rd party tshirts: http://www.zazzle.com/emacs+tshirts
> but nothing on shop.fsf.org.
>
> Thanks,
> Jai
>