From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Wordingham Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Switching non-English keyboard layouts and using Emacs shortcuts Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:49:31 +0100 Message-ID: <20150513204931.2748bab4@JRWUBU2> References: <21842.65330.30641.47875@mail.eng.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431546597 727 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2015 19:49:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:49:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 13 21:49:48 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yscf6-00041i-JQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 21:49:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yscf5-0001le-Rz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 15:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yscev-0001lZ-9i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 15:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yscer-0004Bm-Vz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 15:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-7.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.71]:50141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yscer-0004BD-NT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 15:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from JRWUBU2 ([81.103.224.4]) by know-smtprelay-7-imp with bizsmtp id TXpY1q00T06JmVd01XpY4b; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:49:32 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.103.224.4] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=VcZ5PTZ9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=pLuj3OkTrmEUIJBpyvkqVg==:117 a=pLuj3OkTrmEUIJBpyvkqVg==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=_T8rvOaSE6XUYNLiMyQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 In-Reply-To: <21842.65330.30641.47875@mail.eng.it> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.0.253.71 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104445 Archived-At: On Wed, 13 May 2015 09:37:22 +0200 "Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote: > 2) use custom layout with a special sequence that changes the layout > on the fly without using the setxkbmap command explicitly. I should > ask my wife how to do this - she did it when she studied Arabic and > Turkish; In many X implementations one can combine up to 4 keyboards and choose commands to cycle through them. I still find it awkward to bracket each Emacs command or shortcut by cycling commands. > 3) use an Emacs input method (tamil-inscript or tamil-itrans) > I think that 2) is a bit 'heaveier' than 3) as for Emacs commands, but > 2) is much better than 3) for entering a long text. How is (2) better than (3) for long text? Are you saying the input methods are too slow? I don't see any such problem for methods with one (modified) keystroke = one input character, which is the X paradigm. (X does exhort programs to support a specific set of dead keys.) Richard.