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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs and beginning of lines
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 09:58:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140909095859.13c697f1@aga-netbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vboxepal.fsf@debian.uxu>

Dnia 2014-09-09, o godz. 00:10:58
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> napisał(a):

> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> 
> > If you use a VCS and look at a diff from time to
> > time, filling might be a bad idea. (Though
> > visual-line-mode is not helpful then, either.)
> 
> Indeed, there are many times - notably all programming
> and configuration modes - where you don't want filling
> and absolutely not automatically so.

Is LaTeX mode a programming one? ;-)

> >> Is there a LaTeX submode for hiding markup or search
> >> function to disregard it?
> >
> > That would be cool. Hiding is much easier, AFAIK
> > AUCTeX supports that. Searching might be tricky,
> > though. (If all you need is searching for a sequence
> > of /words/, it would probably make it easier.
> 
> If you can hide markup, what remains to do is a search
> function that treaties newlines and whitespace the
> same, as it can appear as a newline in the source, but
> a whitespace in the .pdf. Very doable.
> 
> If you tell me how to hide in AUCTeX I'll install that
> instantly and try it.

https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Folding.html

> > Fair enough. OTOH, some things are easier to mark up
> > (at least for me) in LaTeX than, say, in Org-mode.
> > But it might be the question of experience and my
> > habits...
> 
> I never tried Org-mode but I heard a lot about it so I
> assume it is great. However for me personally I'm a bit
> of a fanatic. I don't want any transitions between
> representations. I'm not convinced I can write better
> HTML, LaTeX, C++ documentation, etc. than Org-mode or
> some other tool. But I'm not convinced of the opposite
> either. And what tips the scale is that, if I run into
> a problem with LaTeX/HTML/etc. I go right to the source
> and fix it. If I used a [semi-]WYSIWYG, where would I
> go? No, I'll stay close to the heat!

I totally agree - especially with LaTeX, which I know very well.  I
tried to write a scientific article in Org-mode, got immediately
frustrated (not Org's fault - the reason was that it was not LaTeX;))
and switched back to LaTeX.

However, if I'm doing a document which contains TODO items, deadlines
etc., then the ability to export it to html (so I can send it to a
non-Emacs-savvy friend, for instance) is a big win.

And Org's tables - exportable to LaTeX & HTML - are really, really
great.  One time I had a table in LaTeX - two rows and lots of columns
- and needed to transpose it.  Good luck, unless you convert it to
Org-mode (manually, but fast due to string replacing), then transpose
it in Org (one command) and export back to LaTeX's tabular.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University



  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-09  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-06  9:59 emacs and beginning of lines Jude DaShiell
2014-09-06 11:03 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-09-07  0:17   ` Jude DaShiell
     [not found]   ` <mailman.8378.1410049068.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-07 18:35     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-07 20:47   ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.8416.1410122851.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-07 21:32     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-08  9:17       ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-09-08 11:31         ` Yuri Khan
2014-09-08 11:34         ` Yuri Khan
2014-09-08 12:21           ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-09-08 12:34             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <mailman.8453.1410179680.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-08 22:14               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.8445.1410167872.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-08 22:10         ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-09  7:58           ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
     [not found]           ` <mailman.8505.1410249559.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-09 20:02             ` more LaTeX (was: Re: emacs and beginning of lines) Emanuel Berg
2014-09-10  0:12               ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]               ` <mailman.8575.1410307953.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-10  1:12                 ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-10  9:23                   ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.8603.1410341031.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-09-10 21:55                     ` Emanuel Berg
2014-09-10 23:42                       ` Marcin Borkowski

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