From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Feeling lost without tabs Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:11:28 -0600 Message-ID: <20140720115628605693159@bob.proulx.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405879926 22397 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2014 18:12:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 20 20:11:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X8vaV-0004CZ-Sj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8vaU-0005JN-WF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:11:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8vaG-0005JH-1H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8va9-0006AP-S8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:11:39 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:47302) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X8va9-0006AL-CK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E67621226 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C4AD2DC39; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98830 Archived-At: Dan Espen wrote: > The multiple keys part is easy: > (define-key global-map [(f9)] 'electric-buffer-list) > Why hit 2 keys for something you do so often? Since we are both using electric-buffer-list I know we are in the same group on that. It is great. :-) But as for binding to a function key to avoid C-x C-b being two keys I will respond that F9 isn't in the home row of keys. On the standard IBM PC style keyboard one must move the hands from the home row and find and hit that single key. I touch type but I would need to look to hit that one accurately. That is a much higher finger workload than simply typing two control keys from the normal finger typing position that can be done by touch typing. Although I expected that some people will raise the case that chorded keys are multiple keys. But at least in my brain chorded control keys "feel" like one keystroke and not two. Like many old Unix keyboard users I bind the capslock key to be control so that it is where it "should" be again. Then I type control keys just about as quickly and as effortlessly as any other non-control-chorded key. I live by C-x C-b C-n ... SPACE all of the time to change buffers. And to toggle back and forth between two buffers C-x b to select the previously selected buffer. It really goes very fast. > For, me tabs would be a huge annoyance. > I've got the WM set to no title bar for emacs. > I've got emacs customized for no toolbar and no menubar. > So, all I've got in Emacs windows is text. Me too to all of the above. Remove the extra fluff. Maximumize the amount of edit buffer for what I am editing. Bob