From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start (was: Generating a listing of all symbols) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:13:12 -0600 Message-ID: <20140420171311.GA27790@hysteria.proulx.com> References: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> <19937386-3859-46d4-9677-ed2f1b8c5698@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398014031 8951 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2014 17:13:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:13:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 19:13:44 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvJG-00009D-V9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:13:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46212 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvJG-0001xT-D0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:13:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49219) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvIz-0001wP-7E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:13:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvIt-0001N9-1W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:45954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbvIs-0001Ms-JO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:13:18 -0400 Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB1821833 for ; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:13:12 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 26ADD2DC20; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 11:13:12 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19937386-3859-46d4-9677-ed2f1b8c5698@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97268 Archived-At: Rusi wrote: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > One significant advantage of using the standard Emacs bindings is that > > your muscle memory will still be applicable when you need to work on > > someone else's machine, or even explain to someone else how to solve a > > problem in their Emacs. This isn't something to dismiss easily in the > > long run. One problem is that the standard emacs keys appear to be changing. I like the traditional emacs keys. But many people prefer CUA mode. CUA mode drives me crazy. Much of my .emacs file is to change things back to traditional settings. In practice I find that remapping keys like control to capslock is not a problem. I set a few custom keys. I can type at my own keyboard. I can type at other people's keyboards. I notice the difference because I prefer my own mapping but there isn't any problem. Rather the same as when I use vi. I can switch back and forth between vi and emacs and not have any problems. I also know people who use native Dvorak key layouts. They also claim that they prefer Dvorak but switch between it and Qwerty without it being a problem. I can only imagine this is similar to when people are fluently bi-lingual and can switch languages without problem. > I once discovered that a co-worker was very mad at me. > I then discovered it was because for some reason he had to turn on > my machine, then he could not turn it off. > I had flipped CAPSLOCK and Ctrl so Ctrl-Alt-Del stopped being what > he thought it was :-) (Windows machine) CapsLock always becomes control for me too. I have a label maker. I put a sticker "Ctrl" on that key, "ESC" on another. Problem solved! Bob