From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marko Vojinovic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Keystroke inconsistencies between GUI and -nw emacs? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: <20130821183836.73ec49fc@Yoda> References: <20130821154911.1815b476@Yoda> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377106748 24386 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 17:39:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:39:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 19:39:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCN9-00038B-QJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:39:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCN9-0001EE-Et for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:39:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCMt-0001Ds-IT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:38:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCMi-0001ga-DZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:38:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]:50962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCCMi-0001gN-8J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hr7so741705wib.6 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5yFVGpDwaDwxB1A5STw8X0NDx6WBJvC1Qxw05CM6qjU=; b=l6A1tmfPuZQIwCP8PdO9zmgx2oN3zrkv2BY/uz/ah8vLi6arq6+4sikmWGmxcjc760 swE7XK3czYEN1RL1XePWf4AoisBp2bR5Xo7xj5CE/WRBtFWHDulPQ0RBsRlSzUiF3Cde TOx1oZhWxlZboEdQU7lvkPuIYIKEJGHfhqNHOGr48JB5ukJCzBQAAoxcSynLdkafZLsu zYdmohxy5cOw5ZRO1ySnmlag99dKHGBObql6ZX6OVqc9KMbiBzoar/PUwkj+Cu4dlhiy nV80UW0/xosJycCzlf62bOEG+0VTmerBDvFKsMyCDRLWfrQ4r1kvZ28Dz8w+Cgbb42Dk eIWw== X-Received: by 10.180.198.79 with SMTP id ja15mr6301537wic.36.1377106719446; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Yoda (88.210.96.89.rev.optimus.pt. [88.210.96.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ff5sm27576500wib.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:38:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::233 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93036 Archived-At: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:47:24 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > (1) Was this done by design? > > Yes, F10 is supposed to show you the menu-bar "the GUI way". In a tty > this is not implemented (yet?), so it fallsback on tmm-menubar. I see, thanks. I am actually looking these days into the code that should implement that MSDOS-like menu look&feel into the tty, but it should still keep the keystroke-compatibility with the tmm-menubar, only the visual appearance of the menus should be different. In the GUI the F10 opens the GUI menu, which is ok. The only thing I was surprised about is that the GUI menu is not keystroke-equivalent to the tmm-menubar. > > (2) Can the GUI version be reconfigured to have the response to > > keystrokes which is *identical* to the console version? If yes, > > please point me to some docs about how to do it. > > If you use M-` instead of F10, it will work consistently. > Of course, you can remap f10 to run tmm-menubar if you prefer using > F10. The remap to tmm-menubar sounds like the thing I've been looking for, I'll try it out. Thanks! Best, :-) Marko