From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Bind right shift and TAB won't work Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 02:23:00 -0600 Message-ID: <20130513082300.GA24043@hysteria.proulx.com> References: <87k3n5dw7z.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87obcgy8gw.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <874ne7zzln.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368433395 9674 80.91.229.3 (13 May 2013 08:23:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:23:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 13 10:23:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ubo2M-0005oq-TC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 10:23:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55133 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ubo2M-0005Rm-9s for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 04:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44146) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ubo2B-0005Rf-Uv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 04:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ubo2A-0002pG-Lg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 04:23:03 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:39057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ubo2A-0002pA-FK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2013 04:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C039211DF for ; Mon, 13 May 2013 02:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 18F302DC44; Mon, 13 May 2013 02:23:00 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874ne7zzln.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90686 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg wrote: > Aha, as this was an Emacs group, I assumed everyone used Gnus to > access this group. I didn't know email clients were an > alternative. Well, I guess it is no big inconvenience for me removing > those surplus emails. You are apparently reading these messages as the gnu.emacs.help newsgroup. So to you it appears to be a newsgroup. I am reading these messages as the help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list. To me it appears as a mailing list. The problem is that it is both. The problem is that some years ago the mailing list and the news group were gatewayed together using a mail2news / news2mail gateway program. Email to the mailing list is sent to the newsgroup. Postings to the newsgroup are emailed to the mailing list. I think that is a bad idea because it causes each to have the problems of the other. But I am often outvoted. Here is a reference: https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs When you post to the newsgroup then it will be emailed to the mailing list. When we read it on the mailing list if we reply-all then it will be sent to you directly and to the mailing list too. If you read my other posting it explains why people reply-all to the mailing list. Bob