From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: best gnu/linux distro for emacs Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 21:31:27 +0800 Message-ID: <20130323213127.fd225014ede83a8895bdd8dd@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364045511 18995 80.91.229.3 (23 Mar 2013 13:31:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:31:51 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 23 14:32:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UJOYR-0003Kg-2m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 14:32:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49314 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJOY3-0001Rv-IY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:31:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJOXr-0001RV-39 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:31:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJOXp-0004jM-2q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a]:45685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UJOXo-0004ir-T0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n15so2618133dad.15 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2qZifeKKJWJlGFvwk+9MlRS7JeG+WEdvc5BjGBY2uVI=; b=jLMeFS7EbJ7pFhhGOSOQI52ZcO1h5oowbxdj2Zk4y56juQg2BDIPWN7Tc2065pytZI o5qhs7eS2FeUTkAeTGGaDqg3ID2SX2amiLhvIax9mxh4uCaIkTYNBY6u+jHPFDFfhhiv TGPS6ga7OBDj3n2R0rnwzOExGPGfnu8msnnxABLmXz//VBHRpjbOtbQkqzC5oxOaY3QF wl9CbKwrFMSBwytUT5jG9tBqmr43+n/ep2R3hr3EN3cVYN3Cg7e3TLGUBGaD91q3ruXG gmjiiBif/TYbb+Y7/DSPfm5OcqbbIlMxKXG7rzsbPzgzM4dsT8PMDBgHOyFWX0gz+JWj zQPw== X-Received: by 10.68.96.129 with SMTP id ds1mr7788200pbb.204.1364045495751; Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian.emacs ([61.149.225.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ip8sm6161501pbc.39.2013.03.23.06.31.32 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Mar 2013 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:89682 Archived-At: On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 03:09:47 -0700 "Alan E. Davis" wrote: > Many distros do not provide emacs out of the box. Something of a slap in > the face, and unexpected. And annoying. Various distros handle emacs > differently. > I like the way Gentoo handles emacs, and I may reinstall gentoo in the > future. Arch worked farily well. I would prefer to just leave it alone, > pretty much, and tolerate compiling it oneself. > For now, what is the "best" distribution of GNU/Linux for running emacs? It depends. There are different views on the word "best". According to Saint IGNUcius[1], wholly free GNU/Linux distributions[2] are recommended. Although Gentoo and Arch Gentoo do not have a policy of only including free software, they are good distros technically. Other distros like Debian, Fedora, Slackware and openSUSE all have their own advantages. Debian is known for relatively strict adherence to the philosophies of free software. But in Debian, Emacs documentation is in package `emacs24-common-non-dfsg`, since the Debian community and the FSF have some disagreement. There are many packages about Emacs in Debian, like `emacs-goodies-el', `emacs-snapshot' and `debian-el'. And there are also many Debian related Emacs libraries, like devscripts-el[3], apt-mode[4], apt-sources[5] and so on. Fedora leads the advancement of free software; Slackware aims to be the most "Unix-like" distro; and YaST in openSUSE is very elegant. All of them are good distros; which is best is depending on your taste. In Emacs-dev, according to some details, I guess that (just a guess, there's not much basis): Richard Stallman uses gNewSense Stafan Monnier uses Debian Paul Eggert uses Fedora (or Ubuntu?) Dmitry Antipov uses Ubuntu Tom Tromey uses Fedora Eric S. Raymond uses Ubuntu And there are some other people who use MS-Windows/OSX/... , like Eli and Leo. [1] http://stallman.org/saint.html [2] http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html [3] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/devscripts-el.html.en [4] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/apt-mode.html [5] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AptSources -- Xue Fuqiao http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/