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Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

  > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
  > > Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
  > >
  > > =C2=A0> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, J. David Boyd <david@adboyd.=
com> wrote:
  > > =C2=A0> > david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
  > > =C2=A0> >
  > > =C2=A0> >> pjb@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) writes:
  > > =C2=A0> >>
  > > =C2=A0> >>> Tyler Smith <tyler.smith@eku.edu> writes:
  > > =C2=A0> >>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>> david@adboyd.com (J. David Boyd) writes:
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> I could use some help troubleshooting this.
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> When I start up emacs, it doesn't load the files I name=
 on the command
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> line, unless I do an 'emacs -q' to not load any init fi=
les.
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> Obviously, it must be something in my .emacs file, but =
I don't see
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> anything that I've changed in the recent past.
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> Where should I start to debug this? =C2=A0I don't get a=
ny errors when it
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>> runs, it just refuses to load anything from the command=
 line.
  > > =C2=A0> >>>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>>> At the risk of stating the obvious, have you tried comme=
nting out all of
  > > =C2=A0> >>>> your .emacs, then progressively uncommenting it to isola=
te the lines
  > > =C2=A0> >>>> that are causing the problem? comment-region (aka M-;) m=
akes this
  > > =C2=A0> >>>> pretty quick to do.
  > > =C2=A0> >>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>> Also, the OP could try:
  > > =C2=A0> >>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 emacs --debug-init file.txt
  > > =C2=A0> >>>
  > > =C2=A0> >>> If the file is not open it might be because there's a bug=
 in ~/.emacs
  > > =C2=A0> >>
  > > =C2=A0> >>
  > > =C2=A0> >> That I have tried. =C2=A0No errors at all... =C2=A0I was h=
oping that there would
  > > =C2=A0> >> be one, but everything loads just fine, no errors, just do=
esn't load the
  > > =C2=A0> >> file(s) named on the command line.
  > > =C2=A0> >>
  > > =C2=A0> >> Thanks for the idea, though.
  > > =C2=A0> >
  > > =C2=A0> > Found it! =C2=A0I've been calling table.el for years, but s=
omehow it must be
  > > =C2=A0> > incompatible with emacs 23.1.1. =C2=A0Took that out, works =
great. =C2=A0Never used
  > > =C2=A0> > the functionality in it anyway...
  > > =C2=A0> >
  > > =C2=A0> > Dave
  > > =C2=A0>
  > > =C2=A0>
  > > =C2=A0> The file table.el is included in Emacs now.
  > > =C2=A0>
  > > =C2=A0> This is not the first time I have seen quite interesting side=
 effects
  > > =C2=A0> from using old versions of a file that has later been include=
d in
  > > =C2=A0> Emacs. I think that some test should be made after startup for
  > > =C2=A0> potential such loadings. (This could be run conditionally aft=
er all
  > > =C2=A0> init files.)
  > >
  > > See `bad-packages-alist'
  > >
  >=20
  > Ah, thanks, forgot about it.
  >=20
  > Should not table.el be in this list too then?
  > And nxml too?

If they cause problems, they should.