Problem with <dead-acute>

Problem with <dead-acute>

[Adolfo De Unanue]

Hi everyone!

I was working ok writing my thesis dissertation in GNU/Emacs from CVS.
For some (stupid)  reason (I was boring, and I want try something new)
I switched from Debian Lenny to Ubuntu Jaunty Jalopy. I downloaded
again the GNU/Emacs, compiled and... when I try to start writing
"radiación" in the acute (i.e. ó ) I got "<dead-acute is undefined>"
error ... 

I googled for an answer, some advice erasing .xinput_d directory
(doesn't work), others, commenting all the lines with "utf-8" in
the .emacs file (doesn't work either) and some blamed SCIM (i
uninstalled and/or stopped the deamon, and doesn't work)... finally
someone advice put (require 'iso-transl) in the .emacs and that worked!

But I have doubts about this... Whats happening? Someone else has this
problem? Is this a problem of Ubuntu? 


Thank's in advance


Adolfo 


PS. Soon I will return to Debian...:)

Re: Problem with <dead-acute>

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.05.2009 um 09:09 schrieb Adolfo De Unanue:

> finally someone advice put (require 'iso-transl) in the .emacs and  
> that worked!

This also works for me, in Mac OS X.

>
> But I have doubts about this... Whats happening?

A change ...

> Someone else has this problem?

Yes, definitely.

> Is this a problem of Ubuntu?


No, it looks to be general. Maybe it's explained somewhere in the  
documentation ...


It seems that nothing is loaded automatically because there is a  
choice betwee iso-transl and iso-acc. Both seem to provide an input  
method with C-x 8 or Alt-<accent> prefix, but what you and I are  
doing is just pressing a dead key (^, ´, `, ~, ¨) for the accent and  
then another key to "compose" the accented character. And there is no  
Alt key used in this! And according to documentation it seems be  
appropriate for 8-bit encodings, so it should be pretty useless in  
UTF-8. I reported this bug when it was introduced, but the bug seems  
to be classified as a feature ... Maybe it's just because the file is  
auto-loaded though pretty useless.

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Re: Problem with <dead-acute>

[Adolfo De Unanue]

Thanks!

So it is a feature (!?)...ok then...

Very enlightening!

Adolfo



El Sun, 10 May 2009 11:57:24 +0200
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> escribió:

> 
> Am 10.05.2009 um 09:09 schrieb Adolfo De Unanue:
> 
> > finally someone advice put (require 'iso-transl) in the .emacs and  
> > that worked!
> 
> This also works for me, in Mac OS X.
> 
> >
> > But I have doubts about this... Whats happening?
> 
> A change ...
> 
> > Someone else has this problem?
> 
> Yes, definitely.
> 
> > Is this a problem of Ubuntu?
> 
> 
> No, it looks to be general. Maybe it's explained somewhere in the  
> documentation ...
> 
> 
> It seems that nothing is loaded automatically because there is a  
> choice betwee iso-transl and iso-acc. Both seem to provide an input  
> method with C-x 8 or Alt-<accent> prefix, but what you and I are  
> doing is just pressing a dead key (^, ´, `, ~, ¨) for the accent and  
> then another key to "compose" the accented character. And there is
> no Alt key used in this! And according to documentation it seems be  
> appropriate for 8-bit encodings, so it should be pretty useless in  
> UTF-8. I reported this bug when it was introduced, but the bug seems  
> to be classified as a feature ... Maybe it's just because the file
> is auto-loaded though pretty useless.
> 
> --
> Greetings
> 
>    Pete                                           0
>                                             %-/\_//
>                                              (*)(*)
> 
> 
> 

Re: Problem with <dead-acute>

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.05.2009 um 12:16 schrieb Adolfo De Unanue:

> So it is a feature (!?)


Not in my opinion.

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