From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Inappropriate advocacy [Was: wikipedia's (ascii) math notation? emacs easy-way to translate it?] Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:45:38 +0000 Message-ID: <20081203084537.GA1296@muc.de> References: <87oczwkmy2.fsf@localhorst.mine.nu> <26c8eecf-4e39-4ef6-8a3c-83bdf7f1f32f@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228293155 28494 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2008 08:32:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Richard Riley Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 03 09:33:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L7nAc-0006OK-Ho for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:33:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L7n9R-0004mV-Vb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:32:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L7n97-0004m7-0l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:31:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L7n96-0004lt-8n for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:31:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58022 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L7n96-0004lq-2d for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:31:44 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:3930 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7n95-0000QQ-1i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 10021 invoked by uid 3782); 3 Dec 2008 08:31:40 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E23B87.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.59.135]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:31:38 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 1655 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Dec 2008 08:45:38 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60335 Archived-At: Hi, Richard! On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:18:40AM +0100, Richard Riley wrote: > Alan Mackenzie writes: > > Hi, Xah! > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:22:01AM -0800, Xah Lee wrote: > >> When tech geekers speak of TeX, they often speak of in the domain of > >> mathematical knowledge presentation and publishing. In the math > >> knowledge presentation, i am a expert, and personally known that > >> is a ORDER OF MAGNITUDE better than TeX. > > Everybody is asked not to advocate non-free products on the GNU > > mailing-lists/newsgroups, even when on-topic. There are other forums > > where one can do this (e.g. comp.emacs). > > Please don't do this again on help-gnu-emacs. Thanks! > >> Xah > I'm quite interested in this. > So one can not, for example, say "Visual Studio has this great feature > Y which is superior to Emacs function Z for the following reasons, can > anyone suggest how best to improve Emacs to reach the same level"? The abstract principle is that the GNU groups exist to promote free software in general, and GNU software in particular. Your hypothetical sentence is entirely consistant with that aim. > Sounds a tad "non free" if you don't mind the pun. It is a tad non free. But only a tad. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).