From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs standards with regions Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0000 Message-ID: <20081125235509.GB7480@muc.de> References: <6efed95f-a075-45b4-b990-c7d00e34adb4@k24g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <87ljv7pmyh.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1227656651 10105 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2008 23:44:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 26 00:45:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L57ad-000339-7h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:45:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60641 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L57ZT-0002hy-Ou for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:43:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L57Z8-0002hW-4M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L57Z7-0002gy-0U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:43:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55286 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L57Z6-0002gv-Qb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:3997 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L57Z6-0000O6-9T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 77656 invoked by uid 3782); 25 Nov 2008 23:41:55 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E51477.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.20.119]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:41:53 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 8603 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Nov 2008 23:55:09 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60111 Archived-At: 'Evening, Xah! On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:47:17PM -0800, Xah Lee wrote: > On Nov 25, 12:31 pm, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > Xah Lee (2008-11-24 10:15 -0800) wrote: > > > if cua mode is on by default in emacs 23, > > It's not. > my memory went faulty. > Alan Mackenzie said that the transient-mark-mode is now on by default. Indeed I did. When that item was being debated in emacs-devel, I argued vigorously against it (as you can probably imagine). Yet one more reason why we all need a .emacs. > the other majorish change i know of is that arrow up/down now moves by > visual line. An improvement. > i do hope that cua'd be on ... Set it in your .emacs. > ... maybe i should try to grab the emacs source... but then it's all > the pain of compilation and problems and spending hours tech > geeking ... EEEEE! Compilation, the first time round, is relatively painless. But, come on, Xah, you're an accomplished hack^H^H^H^H tech geeker, fully acquainted with all popular OS's, especially the nice Unix-like ones. ;-) Just go to http://savannah.gnu.org/, click on the pertinent links (you have got a mouse, haven't you?), download Emacs-23 CVS, and build it. > Xah -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).