From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:38:12 +0200 Message-ID: <200807240338.12611.juanma_bellon@yahoo.es> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216863524 27039 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 01:38:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:38:44 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 03:39:33 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLpnn-0000zz-Ol for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:39:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLpmu-0004Ni-CB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLpmc-0004Nd-57 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLpmZ-0004NR-EP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50458 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLpmZ-0004NO-96 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from n31.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.207.50]:46686) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLpmY-0001qg-UN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [68.142.200.227] by n31.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 Original-Received: from [216.252.122.219] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 Original-Received: from [68.142.200.225] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 Original-Received: from [68.142.201.252] by t6.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp413.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 489769.83149.bm@omp413.mail.mud.yahoo.com Original-Received: (qmail 98027 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.es; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=jg+ANMZqE+r9N7q0ziegooAX5YNrqEjgaU5LgjDIiBEXsudgQ+Qp+lA20atU9XVLNFbj9eMTp1K3zpJ+8J4bvhLfNNTye9ziikKtfPaSabR6rqUYTZ/P4on3a6yrU/6/mEMDGTMdFShffT05t2u2LepKAK7JQBCjIjscZCiXhoI= ; Original-Received: from unknown (HELO 084202070032.customer.alfanett.no) (juanma_bellon@84.202.70.32 with plain) by smtp113.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jul 2008 01:38:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: zKwYspMVM1nMj7.ZQT2tufUPXZX92T7UP01aSGAln1GkcQ1myYPVpNwlqYjfKLzLdRjBeYsCFtof.yl2oXV0GlmD4eHaW4pHK67D3PLFYyfPMEugI1psFhN_PydzyWvy24s- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55877 Archived-At: On Tuesday 22 July 2008, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > I do use CUA mode, though not for C-x etc. Selection with shift-keys > and visible region are very big pluses against the Emacs defaults, > IMHO. Visible region is a really big plus, but I guess you mean transient-mark-mode and I believe that's not part of CUA. On the other hand, selection with shift+arrows seems to me like the crappy stuff I used to do before entering the glory of Emacs. I would go to admit it's a small plus to be able to *also* do it like that, but I think setting the mark, as an anchor, and extend as you move with any other movement command (and that includes, e.g., i-search), is vastly superior. > > That is what makes Emacs, not an old piece, but a classic. Hence, it > > doesn't need to be modernized. It's good. > > Thanks God (or the FSM) that's not true, or there would be no new features... Well, if new features means modernization, then you are right. It might be a pretty bad choice of words, or binding of concepts, on my side. -- Juanma "Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool." -- Edward Burr