set font problem

set font problem

[Luca Ferrari]

Hi,
I'm using GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) on Linux 
and I'm having a few problems with the font/fontset. My .emacs file has the 
following line:
(set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")

but it does not work, and in fact each time emacs starts, the font is not the 
one I've selected. But if I manually select the above font from the Set 
Font/Fontset menu, I can see the font working. Any idea?

Thanks,
Luca

Re: set font problem

[Joel J. Adamson]

Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> writes:
>

> My .emacs file has the following line:
>
>(set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")
>
> but it does not work, and in fact each time emacs starts, the font is
> not the one I've selected. But if I manually select the above font
> from the Set Font/Fontset menu, I can see the font working. Any idea?

I had a few difficulties getting everything straight with fonts,
fontsets and faces.  I use Emacs 23.0.60 (from CVS) and I found using
.Xdefaults a much better way to control the fonts.


,----
| !Emacs
| Emacs*font:	-xos4-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
| Emacs*cursorColor:	blue
| Emacs*foreground:	grey77
| Emacs*background:	Black
| !Emacs*fullscreen:	fullheight
`----

Then I just turned off font-family on most of my faces.


Do you want the same default font on every frame, or just certain frames?

Joel


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Re: set font problem

[Luca Ferrari]

On Friday 14 March 2008 your cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
> ,----
>
> | !Emacs
> | Emacs*font:	-xos4-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
> | Emacs*cursorColor:	blue
> | Emacs*foreground:	grey77
> | Emacs*background:	Black
> | !Emacs*fullscreen:	fullheight
>

I've tried to disable font and colors in my .emacs and to enable them in 
the .Xdefaults, but they are not working. Neither the fonts and the colors.

Luca

Re: set font problem

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 17.03.2008 um 11:31 schrieb Luca Ferrari:

> I've tried to disable font and colors in my .emacs and to enable  
> them in
> the .Xdefaults, but they are not working. Neither the fonts and the  
> colors.

Because GNU Emacs does not read ~/.Xdefaults. It gets the settings  
from a database. This database is managed by xrdb. So you first need  
to merge the new settings or re-load the complete file.

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Re: set font problem

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 14.03.2008 um 08:26 schrieb Luca Ferrari:

> (set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")

Maybe you should just choose a useful encoding, -iso10646-1 for  
example ... Otherwise GNU Emacs might not be able to choose one font  
from a dozen or some dozens.

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   Pete

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Re: set font problem

[Luca Ferrari]

On Friday 14 March 2008 Peter Dyballa's cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
> Am 14.03.2008 um 08:26 schrieb Luca Ferrari:
> > (set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")
>
> Maybe you should just choose a useful encoding, -iso10646-1 for
> example ... Otherwise GNU Emacs might not be able to choose one font
> from a dozen or some dozens.
>

Peter, could please be more specific? I don't understand that.
Thanks,
Luca

Re: set font problem

[Joel J. Adamson]

Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> writes:

> On Friday 14 March 2008 Peter Dyballa's cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
>> Am 14.03.2008 um 08:26 schrieb Luca Ferrari:
>> > (set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")
>>
>> Maybe you should just choose a useful encoding, -iso10646-1 for
>> example ... Otherwise GNU Emacs might not be able to choose one font
>> from a dozen or some dozens.
>>
>
> Peter, could please be more specific? I don't understand that.

He means that after you edit .Xdefaults, you use the command

$ xrdb .Xdefaults

to update the databse of X variables.

I just use M-! xrdb .Xdefaults RET in Emacs.  Of course if you're using
Emacs, you may need to restart Emacs, or open a new frame ;)

Joel

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Re: set font problem

[Luca Ferrari]

On Monday 17 March 2008 your cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
> He means that after you edit .Xdefaults, you use the command
>
> $ xrdb .Xdefaults
>
> to update the databse of X variables.

Done, but now emacs refuses to start saying:
No fonts match `-xos4-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'
and I've tried also with Courier fonts.

Any idea?

Thanks,
Luca

Re: set font problem

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:
> On Monday 17 March 2008 your cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
>  > He means that after you edit .Xdefaults, you use the command
>  >
>  > $ xrdb .Xdefaults
>  >
>  > to update the databse of X variables.
>
>  Done, but now emacs refuses to start saying:
>  No fonts match `-xos4-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'
>  and I've tried also with Courier fonts.
>
>  Any idea?

Use "xfontsel" to create a XLFD (X Logical Font Description) that's
available in your system.


-- 
Andrea

Re: set font problem

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 18.03.2008 um 12:52 schrieb Andrea Vettorello:

> Use "xfontsel" to create a XLFD (X Logical Font Description) that's
> available in your system.


That's probably not the solution ... it's just a part! IMO, based on  
heuristics, it would work with less asterisks in XLFD, i.e. when they  
are substituted with real values.

I have in ~/.Xdefaults the definition of a fontset, and this fontset  
is then used as value for the Emacs.Font resource. GNU Emacs 21.3.50  
does not like it when the fontset has too many asterisks ...

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Re: set font problem

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 18.03.2008 um 13:29 schrieb Peter Dyballa:

> IMO, based on heuristics, it would work with less asterisks in  
> XLFD, i.e. when they are substituted with real values.


I have to correct myself: GNU Emacs 21.3.50 also works with lots of  
asterisks!

Well, xlsfonts can list if your font choice is known to the system.  
If not, check with xset that your font path is complete. If not, make  
it complete. It might help to invoke, in any case,

	xset fp rehash

Then check with xlsfonts again.

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   Pete

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Re: set font problem

[Joel J. Adamson]

Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> writes:

> On Monday 17 March 2008 your cat, walking on the keyboard, wrote:
>> He means that after you edit .Xdefaults, you use the command
>>
>> $ xrdb .Xdefaults
>>
>> to update the databse of X variables.
>
> Done, but now emacs refuses to start saying:
> No fonts match `-xos4-terminus-medium-*-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'
> and I've tried also with Courier fonts.

Do you have the font?  If you want terminus, you have to get it from
http://www.is-vn.bg/hamster/jimmy-en.html --- I really like it ;)

Use xfontsel: pick a family that you like, then hit the "select" button,
and then middle-click into the frame where you're editing .Xdefaults.
Then do 'xrdb .Xdefaults' and then restart Emacs.

I have never had a problem putting in as many asterisks as there were in
xfontsel, although it's a good idea to narrow it down to a spacing
(spc), registry (rgistry) and encoding (encding).

Joel

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Re: set font problem

[Nikolaj Schumacher]

Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:

> (set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")

Try this in you .emacs
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist
  '(font . "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"))


regards,
Nikolaj Schumacher

Re: set font problem

[Luca Ferrari]

On Saturday 15 March 2008 Nikolaj Schumacher's cat, walking on the keyboard, 
wrote:
> Luca Ferrari <fluca1978@infinito.it> wrote:
> > (set-frame-font "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*")
>
> Try this in you .emacs
> (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist
>   '(font . "-*-Courier-bold-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"))
>

Uhm...still not working, any idea?

Luca