From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Mattie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Does pclcvs support ssh protocol ? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: <20080221231156.6ee15c74@reforged> References: <20080221.211543.112579823.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <20080222.075409.183050664.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/=nEV/rUCbQ/lpBweI5wnbSe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203664514 12114 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 07:15:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:15:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 08:15:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSS87-0000vr-92 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:15:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSS7b-0002Kr-Tb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSS7L-0002Kk-0e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:14:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSS7J-0002KY-5V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:14:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSS7J-0002KV-3O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:14:45 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSS7I-00059B-Nx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:14:44 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so342694wah.10 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:14:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=zXV95hct2o5sGnxoIuSoCKOCjn4GMYxWopvACbaw1yk=; b=DHN80evnwizw5TbNOEk7txDvysDdXqOhg50TqsnQW6P2cAkPrI3DsgmsNPYty/EKeCmlCJLKFmn+AYTmTvesrtIPAhGax6FpIciiBtHi3TyALiWLEnZHCW6Fwd0xMCJPvzuGKWQRstjveGGSAkRt5543t+ixpxahcBUIYYhFdiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; b=mJuJqtj06oMWkhkbzEz+R+ufmzxjezi+rJmj+fu8eHScsWAfVanSzgegNdsqFEMzjKffXp9mKcP2PW+axl29CgtTy2ZUFXHduCd7D97ltA+FZaF/BtnfFY/DoidXoMIz6IK94kbIxYy0KDksL4t4vYpV1HOCzmjWNdvySrDoqt8= Original-Received: by 10.115.88.1 with SMTP id q1mr2107754wal.98.1203664483183; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:14:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from reforged ( [71.217.206.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z20sm1633675pod.4.2008.02.21.23.14.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:14:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20080222.075409.183050664.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51757 Archived-At: --Sig_/=nEV/rUCbQ/lpBweI5wnbSe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 07:54:09 +0100 (CET) Pierre Lorenzon wrote: > From: Michael Hoffman > Subject: Re: Does pclcvs support ssh protocol ? > Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:31:54 +0000 >=20 > > Pierre Lorenzon wrote: > >=20 > > > Notice that I still do not have the answer to my question : > > > "yes or not is this password transaction implemented in > > > pcl-cvs like in tramp ?" > >=20 > > Now the question has changed. >=20 >=20 > Not really !=20 >=20 > Pierre >=20 >=20 >=20 The answer is clearly ssh-agent. There are a large number of security issue= s regarding keys, memory locking, timed expiration, secure entry, etc. Emacs doesn't need to = jump through all these hoops when ssh-agent,pin-entry,gpg do this sort of thing correctly with a r= obust code-base. I can't even imagine why someone would want to constantly re-enter the pass= word anyways. If you were interested in security you would not want your security critica= l components exposed in a monolith like Emacs that cannot enforce memory privileges. Hammering away at this issue is asinine, since you do not have a point. Tha= nks to these fancy link-loader gizmos, and those operating system thingies we can distribute f= unctionality across process boundaries with IPC. Welcome to the revolution. 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