From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Mattie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Beginning Hobbyist Programmer Question Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:10:18 -0800 Message-ID: <20080122101018.2f7cfc69@reforged> References: <44129c70-807a-4ef0-bc4f-e299caf5e334@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87y7ahrcy3.fsf@moley.moleskin.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1191493212==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201025994 19461 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2008 18:19:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:19:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 22 19:20:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JHNjC-0005xa-Ff for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:20:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JHNim-00080I-HG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JHNiS-0007xv-7F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JHNiQ-0007w2-IB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JHNiQ-0007vp-D0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:18 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.176]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JHNiQ-0005Ot-7b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:18 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so4516244wah.10 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:19:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=pZ5o0MWeMKcz+qi5lsglWG1QlUOsX0Ka7VWId3S5bNU=; b=ZV3iQ3Uw/SzM7XPcIkfNzUVOmUw66z3Jrfrgcv4rANN3M3cvIfHsXeMfo9N8uLxiWZoW0stPVDJLJCuy1o0wnuXXfkcZnkL9RLlQxQR+jFKhVulEc3EHAwK/xOXhFeHkvIY69fwPToWlK0JNI++QV8tmNrfUH6QgUD5J1Xr5Ui4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; b=jaeAY8tHymtnLHLgXCo9oS2Y4/Z64WJ4S2eVoQzHq1qisygaTkMWUMdC2NLkzAKUyx0yVfQDy0UC98TUSL4WHLTdwGTZMeOjXFGObFnYsAU5Miz6BC5N6vfFCxbtpYaoZwSrK3YO8uYitYjqA+5izOKkPwZJXnhucBuNSOfrdk4= Original-Received: by 10.114.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr6887421wac.24.1201025953276; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:19:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from reforged ( [71.217.198.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k9sm18521805wah.3.2008.01.22.10.19.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:19:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y7ahrcy3.fsf@moley.moleskin.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:50867 Archived-At: --===============1191493212== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/DLJUf_0O+ZkzzF0SQBzAd/l"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 --Sig_/DLJUf_0O+ZkzzF0SQBzAd/l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:24:04 +0200 Sebastian Tennant wrote: > Quoth signups17@gmail.com: > > Can anyone provide a cogent explanation for why I should take the > > time to climb that learning curve?=20 >=20 > Well, it'll take a while, and by the sound of it your time is pretty > damn important, so I suggest you get back to what you were doing. >=20 > > What are the benefits, as you see them? >=20 > Emacs is quite simply the most universally useful program ever > written. >=20 > Sebastian You can view Emacs from many perspectives. It is extensible etc. Handy for programming which is extremely repetitive in the doing. The essence of using Emacs though is hacking Emacs itself with elisp, in th= at=20 aspect it is the most portable software emulation of the now almost forgott= en=20 Lisp Machines that I know of. =20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > help-gnu-emacs mailing list > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs --Sig_/DLJUf_0O+ZkzzF0SQBzAd/l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHljGKdfRchrkBInkRAvp2AJ40RTqoVV7bDdvA8Os0R/3id6XYUACcDEP+ u3Atfi6mX/akLx/54oYcCes= =CX2/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/DLJUf_0O+ZkzzF0SQBzAd/l-- --===============1191493212== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ help-gnu-emacs mailing list help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs --===============1191493212==--